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Permalink Reply by Mary Turner on March 28, 2011 at 6:29pm

OH is really tough to do much of anything clinical for estheticians. You can't do Microderm without an MD, and can't use peels higher than 30%. Your state is very strict. PA is unregulated for most of esthetics, and we can do pretty much anything. Smart that your are adhering to your state regs !

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Permalink Reply by Andrea Stein on March 28, 2011 at 11:28pm

I suggest you do check with your state board. No matter what everyone else is doing you are only responsible for your own actions and choices. Do your homework and research. That is another thing that will help you to grow in this industry and you wont worry about looking over your shoulder to see who is watching you a=or open yourself up to possible legal discipline or malpractice. Once you make the choice you can rest assured you are giving your clients the best possible experience with a wonderful outcome for both of you! Happy Hunting!

andrea

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Permalink Reply by Nondy Llewellyn on March 29, 2011 at 9:46am

If your State Board guidelines say (and you can actually FIND the information!) no peels below 3.0 pH, then you need to make sure you are in compliance no matter what other salons/spas, etc are using.  I actually wrote an article that won't be out until September for one of our trade magazines.  Basically the gist of the article is that in this competitive field, everyone seems to want to run to the next new machine, or that whiz-bang blended peel.  My contention is that we already have machines and peels/enzymes, etc. that we CAN use, but for some reason we feel left behind if we don't have that newest "Thing"!  How much better to welcome that state board inspector with confidence and a smile, knowing you are in compliance, rather then that deer-in-the-headlights, panic-stricken feeling?  There are so many machines we DO have (Galvanic, High-Frequency, Vac-Spray, scrubber, etc.), how many of us REALLY use them regularly?  Get grounded in the basics, use what you CAN, and your business will do well.

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Permalink Reply by Gina Williamson on March 29, 2011 at 9:58am

Thank you. Yes, I fully intend to be 100% compliant, as I do not want ANYTHING biting me in the butt.... it's just very frustrating to be in a state that is so limiting.  They've basically got us estheticians doing relaxation facials. haha!  not very results oriented.  but it's ok. I will make the best of what we are allowed to do- and not jump on every bandwagon- that is VERY good advice.

I am in conversation with State Board on their facebook page now getting confirmation on what is allowed.  no pH below 3.0 regardless of percentage. I'm now waiting to hear back about enzymes....

I'm just so bummed about Skin Scripts b/c I love the products.  I'll definitely still use them on ME!! haha

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Permalink Reply by Nondy Llewellyn on March 29, 2011 at 10:23am

Good attitude Gina!  You should still be able to use their Coconut Enzyme (no acids), and if you can use Galvanic/HF/Vac-Spray, develop a super facial treatment with what you CAN use!  How about something like:

 

Cleanse to remove dirt/debris/makeup

Cleanse according to skin (perhaps a mild glycolic/lactic cleanser)

apply enzyme according to manufacturers directions

Remove enzyme with skin scrubber/spatula

Remove residue with warm, moist towel

If extractions are not super easy...

Apply gauze to face, brush on desincrustation fluid, and do a Galvanic treatment for 4 minutes on the (-) pole.

Watch extractions practically jump from their follicles (just kidding).

Apply antiseptic toner

Apply serum ampoule (water-based) if you want.

Apply gauze, and brush over a water-based gel masque.

Use the Galvanic on the (+) pole for 4 minutes in upward/outward "lifting" movements.

Remove gauze, and wrap with warm moist towel to remove gel masque

Tone again

Apply serum, eye cream, and moisturizer if using.

apply sunscreen

Receive big check

Thank client sincerely, make homecare recs, blah, blah, blah...

 

So, what have you ACTUALLY done for this client?  You've done THREE methods of exfoliation (glycolic wash, enzyme, skin scrubber), you've rid them of blackheads, and with the Galvanic, you've set their skin up to better receive the great serum, and other home care you've sold them.  What's not to love about that?

 

 

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Permalink Reply by Gina Williamson on March 29, 2011 at 10:34am

Thanks for that! I don't have $$ for a galvanic (yet)... but I am considering the skin scrubber, which I watched a great demo of using it for extractions AND using it to drive serums deeper... not to mention the peel option...

I did just order the DermaFile- upon recommendation by Lisa w/Skin Scripts- so I have that option, too!

Oh- and I do have a Clarisonic so I can give them a nice, deep cleanse. :-)

:-D Feeling better every minute!!! LOL

Thanks, everybody. I love this forum.

 

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