RN's qualified for skin treatments?

Hi everyone, the place I work has a RN/owner, that does the chemical peels. She does these to pocket the $$$ for herself. I have watched her do the peels and would not recommend them to anyone. I don't feel it is my place to educate her, I took the time to get my license and understand the contraindications and skin types of not doing something correctly.

It bothers me that an RN will do this. We are not a med spa or dermatologist office. It is a weight loss center.

Is there some law in CA that would prohibit this?

Thanks Denise

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Permalink Reply by Sandra Kazenko on January 1, 2013 at 5:10pm

Denise, I think this was a valid post. I would be interested to know as well if I were you. Our licenses should not be only to protect clients and keep them safe, but also to protect our livelihoods as professionals. I'm a massage therapist and in Illinois an Esty can't market massage because that's my client, not theirs.... Same for nurses whether they have an education far above mine or not. Good luck finding your answer, I find the state laws in any state kind of maddening to search though.

Permalink Reply by Tammy Brown on January 1, 2013 at 5:43pm

Permalink Reply by Donna Felice on January 1, 2013 at 5:55pm

Hi Denise,

I have been a RN for 20 yrs and last year I became interested in skin care as a profession. Initially I thought my RN license would be enough to be able to do waxing,facials,peels...after all I do much more invasive and riskier things to people all the time. However I found that a lot of companies would not sell me products or work with me at all with out an esthetician license. My RN license did not mean anything to them.

I went to school part time and worked part time and I am so glad I did.  Nursing school does not teach you anything about Fitz types, peels or hair removal! School did not take long and it was worth it. I feel much more confident having both back grounds.

So as far as the owner you are working with -  she can get by on her nursing background and knowledge. Her license covers her. But how much better she would be if she invested in esthetician classes.

Permalink Reply by J.L. on January 2, 2013 at 12:59pm

Donna, your response is refreshing! Thank you for caring and understanding that an RN and Aesthetician are not the same thing. :-)

Permalink Reply by Denise Allen on January 1, 2013 at 6:02pm
I agree Nancy thanks!
Permalink Reply by Denise Allen on January 1, 2013 at 6:09pm
I'm sorry. Natalie. Auto correct! Lol
Permalink Reply by Denise Allen on January 1, 2013 at 6:00pm
Donna thank you that is amazing! Donna and Sandra you are saying the same thing I'm talking about. I feel it is something that estys need to look out for. You get a person that qualified for certain things and it makes the potential client scared. Yes the state laws are sketchy as well. Thanks ladies!
Permalink Reply by Mandy Neagles on January 11, 2013 at 8:17pm

Just a little background on me :) bc I feel this post is SO related to where I am right now...

I went to cosmetology school 18 years ago. Obviously the skincare world was entirely different, and I learned nothing that currently is in practice NOW back THEN.

I am also an RN.

I want to get back into the skincare side of cosmetology (I live in Arkansas so once again the standards are just vague and crazy!) but it is slow going...

I am not required to get CEU's as a part of my cosmo license (???!!!) so it is hard to even find anything available so I can learn!!! I have asked a local business to let me "intern" part-time, but she already has someone else doing this (still working on this aspect)...

Soooo I am trying... I want to do all the fun stuff (peels, microderm, etc.)- but as a nurse I also know that due to the fact that I am not current with my skin education that I should GET CURRENT FIRST!!!

If this owner/RN is doing things she shouldn't, it's because SHE is unethical and I would think long and hard before I worked for her/with her/in her salon...  

BTW, I just found this site in my quest for more knowledge, so teach me ladies teach me!!! :)

Permalink Reply by Denise Allen on January 14, 2013 at 11:01pm
We'll welcome Mandy! Thanks for the input. The more I read and talk to others the more the issue comes up. I remember the cosmos at the school I attended had 1 week of skin care. The general basics. Go back to school for esthetics, believe me if I can do it you can. Show those little girls what your made of! Hehehe
Permalink Reply by Krista C. on January 12, 2013 at 10:31am

Hi Denise,

The spa I used to work for also has an RN for an owner.  She would do the more invasive treatments, such as anything that would draw blood or that included lasers, etc.  Anyway, I noticed a big difference in the way she treated clients, as far as making it a "spa like" atmosphere.  She would chastise me for using too many hot towels on my clients (which they love), and she would say she only used 1-2 towels on each of her clients during facials/microdermabrasions/etc.  My clients loved the hot towel treatments, so I would use about 7-8 per facial, to wipe off masques, cleansers, etc.  Anyway, I think she offered benefits to clients who wanted more clinical treatments, and I offered benefits to clients who wanted skin results, but also wanted a "spa" relaxation treatment.  Personally, I think you're trained differently as an esthetician, in the aspect that you're trained to soothe, comfort, and do all the "spa fru-fru" things in your treatment that an RN might not necessarily receive in their training.  Good luck to you!!! :)

Permalink Reply by Mandy Neagles on January 12, 2013 at 11:42am

Once again I think that is dependent on the individual... I use lots of towels and I am an RN!

Permalink Reply by Krista C. on January 12, 2013 at 2:51pm

Mandy - I totally agree with you. :)

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