Anyone else SICK AND TIRED of setting up at an event where there are millions of MLM skin care and cosmetic companies?  Sorry, had to vent about this.  At my recent event, there was a NuSkin and Mary Kay consultant.  The NuSkin woman came by my table and says what do you have?  I said I am a skin care spa blah blah.  She goes oh I can't be by you.  The the Mary Kay lady asked the same thing and her response was the same.  I said well I actually do facials not just sell product...she goes, yeah so do I.  WHAT? 

What bothers me is people who are not trained properly can consult people and tell them what products are best for their skin and they can apply product and do treatments as well. An arbonne rep told me once that hormonal acne can be treated with their products.  Really?  and all this time I thought you had to get the hormones under control to truly treat it.  Am I wrong? 

Makes me so angry!  Thanks for letting me vent.

Does anyone else feel aggravated?  If I hear, no this company is back by SCIENCE, one more time, I feel like screaming.  

Are any of the MLM companies good products????   

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Yes Mary Kay is MLM! I sold Mk. How do you think these ladies drive that LOANED out Pink Caddy? And they have to keep their sales force strong if they want to Keep that Pink Caddy too.  They offer a facial, but I have never seen a REAL Facial done BY any one who sales MK. According to the Uplines that I was under, we were not allowed to touch anyones face. WE never determined what skin type or condition the clients had. The Client told US. We then selected the products for them base on what they (the client) TOLD US as what they believed their skin type and condition was. It is all about Marketing and Sales and not the product or true skin care.

MK is what you make it, if you want the pink caddy then you work for the pink caddy. I have also seen women that use MK and their skin looks great.  

Mary Kay is TOTALLY MLM!!! Not knocking them, but it is!!!

What does MLM stand for, and how is Mary Kay not one? 

MLM is basically glorified pyramid scheme. Get people to sell under you...make bonuses get higher in company....

 MLM   Multi Level Marketing.. You make 50% of what you sell with MK no matter what.

When we get older it takes longer for the skin to renew itself. We all know this but when you speed up the process you speed up the rate of the skin renewal process... this is all good but now we are speeding up the aging process...just a thought ,,,think about it...

 

Its still a MLM business model regardless of how much you earn. My experience with this line has never been positive. As a consumer and on the professional level. Many of my client (past MK users) came to me with skin problems like dryness and acne prone skin. As soon as they switch over to a professional line their skin issued resolved. Can you please share your theory on peels and how they supposedly age the skin? Does MK make their product ingredients public on their website? I was attempting to research product ingredients for a client and was unable to find any information. Thanks

I am quite certain they use mineral oil/petrochemicals.  I remember a very sweet client who used only MK and was so dedicated to her skincare routine, and was as darling and pretty as can be.  Until  I removed her makeup--bless her heart, her adult skin had terrible acne and uneven tone.  My whole thing is, "How is that working out for you?"  I always tell my clients, if you are doing all of the right things and your products are NOT delivering results, fire them.  So I am a pretty big advocate for not using that particular brand based on their ingredients.  It doesn't seem any different to me than say Oil of Olay, Cover Girl or another drug store brand.  

I'm sorry, I don't see how speeding up cell turnover speeds up aging.  People who don't exfoliate and speed up the cell turnover have duller, drier, and older looking skin.  Everything I've learned about exfoliation simply states it either causes the top layer to shed, revealing newer, softer skin underneath, or causes the deeper layers to create new cells, pushing everything up a level, which causes the same outcome.  It's just matter of how the products work.  I've never heard, in all my education (and I've had alot) that this process also speeds up aging. 

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