Hey Lisa, I was just curious if you guys have ever considered adding a mandelic into the line to help treat acne? Have you had any experience with that? I purchased Face Reality's to use personally and the mandelic really helps clear up blemishes so I was curious if you have had any experience with mandelic?
I do love the simplicity of the Skin Script line so I don't add many items unless I'm really excited on something. I always keep people's requests in mind.
OOOHH I don't know :).. we already talked about the mandelic, but maybe something for Rosacea, hyperpigmentation (which I know we have the pads and vitamin c) but was thinking slighly more aggressive or concentrated?, maybe some type of oxygen treatment or serum, vitamin a serum, something for firming like neck and decollete, stem cells, etc. I know this gets more pricey and I love the price point of SS and the products. I don't know I love serums and love being able to cocktail them together so was just thinking more than the ageless and vit c :).
I am thinking about selling pumps to go with the cleansers and the moisturizers (ageless and light aloe). What size pump would I need? I tried the pump that came with the lactic peel and I think it would work so when you get a chance can you let me know. I think the pump would control the product coming out better, especially since I am using mostly retail sizes for my backbar. Thanks!!
Sheila: When you order, you can request silver pumps to go with your cleansers and/or moisturizers. They will fit the neck, you just need to cut the dip tube to fit the bottle. They aren't the most reliable pumps and that's why I went to flip caps, but I still have some if you'd like to request them.
Lisa, I'm getting so excited about coming out to Arizona next week and the workshops we have scheduled. I just got a new toy in today that I am going to introduce at the workshops...it's a suprise! I think eveyrone will really really like it!! This is my first trip to Arizona. Looking forward to all of us going to a great restaurant on Saturday.....you pick!!
After class on Monday I have decided to step things up a notch!! Today for the first time I tried the retinol scrub with steam and put the enzyme on top (a rasp peach and then lemon zest on another client). both had clogged pores in the nose and I really loved the results!! Any suggestion for removing? I use warm towel and wiped with sponges to remove but I still feel like there is scrub left on and when I do my face massage I can't decide if it bothers the client. I used my dermafile on top of the green tea cleanser today too for the first time. :).
Question, would you ever put an enzyme close to underneath the eye for some exfoliation or on the lips?
I feel the same way about the scrub. I like the results but it is hard to get off. So far it seems if I use a hot towel after I remove with cotton it comes off better but then makes for more laundry.
Is there a breakdown of the products for how many uses you can get out of each size? I know you mentioned in class a 4oz mask or enzyme should give you about 16 treatments but I wondered if there was anything about other products. I obviously haven't paid close attention and need to, I know I def use way too much product but I was thinking more for my clients when selling retail like if used correctly you can get x amount of treatments so this should last you x amount of time. I usually say 2 or so months but wanted to be more exact. Just curious. As always, thanks so much!
If you feel the scrub is difficult to remove with the enzyme, I would ask how much scrub you are using? Keep trying, it will come off. If you have to use two towels I'm sure your client wouldn't mind (although you are right that you have the extra laundry). I use as many towels as needed. I actually use 4 hand towels and 6 washclothes in each facial. Yes, I know its extra laundry, but my clients love it.
If I were to exfoliate the lips, I would use the coconut (a very small amount to massage into the lips that wouldn't cause flaking). Use the Peptide Eye Cream after the coconut enzyme. I use the Peptide Eye Cream anytime I have chapped lips and it cures them immediately.
Regarding your question on how many uses you can get out of each size, please e-mail me at lisa@skinscriptrx.com and I can give you my calculations on "price per treatment" based on number of uses per item. It's a little complicated, but I divided each back bar size into number of uses and the price per use. I tend to lean on the heavy side of product usage so I think my calculations should be accurate.
Mandy: No plans for Shelley in co-present with us in Cleveland, but maybe this is her invitation??!!??
When I have to remove "messy" products I tend to use moistened esthetic wipes(using warm water) before I use my towels.
Clients always love a hot towel though...they won't complain. I have not a clue how some estheticians use only three towels per facial! I use four at a minimum.
Oh - and the Retinol scrub can be used as a masque close to the eyes Sheila.
I had a client with milia around eyes and Lisa suggested having her use it like this at home, but I think it could be used in the treatment room too (I would put it close to the eyes during the enzyme but wouldn't "scrub" it)
Great tips!! Thanks so much!! I usually use 4 towels as well, 1 to remove enzyme, 2 after face and neck and shoulder massage and one to remove mask. I am probabl using way too much product as well :). Thanks Lisa, I would love the break down and I will email you. I appreciate it!!
In addition to using towels I also find it helpful to use green tea cleanser. Give a gentle cleanse and use warm towel to remove. Helps dissolve the jojoba beads left behind from the scrub.
I almost always use the Retinol scrub in the second cleanse when not layering it with an enzyme and it removes nicely with just 4x4's and sponges. Warm towel is my go to for all the enzymes following steam.
The passion fruit is amazing as long as your client understands they will pink up and stay that way for a bit. For me it seems to dissipates within 30 min of removing.
I love passion fruit as well! Really does give nice results! I may have a client buy a package where we do a series of the firming facials and will be a good esty and take my pictures :)
I have tried the passion fruit enzyme for the first time and it does make my face red and warm for few hours. I am wondering if it's okay to do product penetration with ultrasound and micro current treatment.
My husband and I drove from the San Franscisco area all the way to Arizona yesterday (12 hours!!). It's beautiful here. I'm so excited about the workshops this weekend and to meet so many Estys that I have been chatting with and emailing! I'm also looking forward to meeting the wonderful gals in your office Lisa.....I feel like I know them because we chat so often!!
Kim: Regarding your message below to all Skin Script Professionals (I don't know where to reply so I'm doing it here.
Regarding the Passionfruit ... 90% of people will get red! 5% will get pink and 5% will get no response. Everyone responds differently to products. To intensify, you can add steam and even add 30% glycolic. Once you are comfortable with the response of this enzyme, I will even dermafile and penetrate it with the skin spatula. Keep in mind that this is for the tough skin who has experienced the Passionfruit with little to no response. Let me know if you have questions.
A message from Kim McCollum to all members of Skin Script Skin Care on Skin Care Professionals!
I am about to place my first Skin Script order-Everytime I go to do it I get another question! With the Passionfruit Enzyme-I hear about the redness-i put it on my face two different times-the second time in different areas-and got no redness at all...This was out of the Passionfruit enzyme sample...Wondering why no redness-I put it slightly thicker on my forehead between brows-could feel a kind of sensation I guess you could call firming? Just wondering why no redness....
Lisa is showing us much love out here in Arizona! We went to a really fun restaurant last night with an incredible view of the valley. When you enter, you have the option of taking the stairs down to the dining area or going down a slide...I took by 52 year old behind down that slide just like a little kid...whoohoo!!
Lisa, see ya in a little while for our first of three workshops! Your Center is absolutely beautiful and inviting. I am honored to be there with you today and tomorrow. Let's have fun!
Shelley's toys are so much fun. She has her LED, Oxygen, SmoothScult, dermafiles, ultrasonic spatula, and more! It brings excitement back into the treatment room. Glad you are here Shelley. We will host another class today, April 22, in Tempe and looking forward to meeting more great aestheticians!
Lisa...listening to you during the three workshops we did together last week turned me into a mad scientist!! I have a client here right now that ask for something "heavy duty". I've known this gal for years, she likes the tight feeling from peels. So...I did the retinal scrub and lemon zest boosted with glycolic. I left that on for about 7 minutes. Then I did three layers of TCA. She's now under my Celluma LED panel for 15 minutes. She looked great when I left the room!! It's fun playing!
I know that we are not supposed to use retinol if we wax but I really want to start treating this sun spot under my eye (right on my cheekbone). I also cannot give up waxing...way too much hair! :) I do have pretty sensitive skin and I'm not even sure if my skin will handle doing this (I usually can't do anything like this) but I am determined to try something else!!
I want to use the Gly/Ret Pads to spot treat my sun spot. I will only use it on that spot. I would obviously never encourage a client to do this. Does anyone have any thoughts on this?
Hi Devyn - I don't have a problem with you using the gly/ret pads directly on that sunspot. If you become sensitized, then slow down on usage, but I would definitely try it.
Lisa I have a client on the glycolic cleanser , retinol srub and the pads is it safe to have her stop using for 3 days and then wax brows or should it be longer. also How do you feel about doing peels in the summertime as people spend more time out doors? :)
Hi Cheryl: I, personally, use a soft wax called Satin Smooth and I have had great results because it is so gentle. In fact, I can wax a client after her facial (even though she is using the glycolic cleanser, retinol scrub, at home) I know my wax is gentle, and I have never torn any skin using it. If you have some heavy duty wax, then I suggest stopping home exfoliants for at least one week prior to waxing. I hope this helps. Thanks!
Regarding peels in the summer, I will perform them as long as I know my client will not be in the sun, nor will she have any heat exposure either. I also know that my client is not fibbing to me. Believe me, I have had my share of clients beg for a peel, but tell me about their upcoming golf tournament this weekend. Or, better yet, they are spending the next week on their houseboat. I take it on a case-by-case basis on whether I will treat them in the summer. I do have clients that go to work and home, so I am comfortable treating them.
Are you even talking Enzyme peels? (not doing these if they're out in the sun etc....)
what other things can we give to our clients during the summer months if we don't do the peels, something besides facials, waxing etc....What can we promote?
@ Tracy - You can get into spray tanning with South Seas for around $400, including the tent to spray tan in. Just buy the portable system. No streaks and super fast! You can book appt's every 15 minutes! It's the same stuff they use on Dancing with the Stars, Pirates of the Carribean, True Blood, etc..
Thanks Lisa! I started on the pads and I REALLY hope this gets rid of my spot. So far, not irritation either, which is a miracle! :) Tomorrow will be the real test though.
@Tracy Yes! That's the one. Excellent help from customer service. Smells good too. Definite great addition :) :) :). You don't need the big sets unless all you do all day is spray tan. Why bother investing the money until you need to!
Sheila Gordon
Hey Lisa, I was just curious if you guys have ever considered adding a mandelic into the line to help treat acne? Have you had any experience with that? I purchased Face Reality's to use personally and the mandelic really helps clear up blemishes so I was curious if you have had any experience with mandelic?
Mar 14, 2013
Lisa VanBockern
Sheila - I can put it on the wish list.
Mar 15, 2013
Sheila Gordon
thanks Lisa!!
Mar 18, 2013
Sheila Gordon
Lisa, do you think you will ever add any other serums to the line? Just out of curiosity. :).
Apr 3, 2013
Lisa VanBockern
Hi Sheila - what type of serum?
I do love the simplicity of the Skin Script line so I don't add many items unless I'm really excited on something. I always keep people's requests in mind.
Apr 4, 2013
Sheila Gordon
OOOHH I don't know :).. we already talked about the mandelic, but maybe something for Rosacea, hyperpigmentation (which I know we have the pads and vitamin c) but was thinking slighly more aggressive or concentrated?, maybe some type of oxygen treatment or serum, vitamin a serum, something for firming like neck and decollete, stem cells, etc. I know this gets more pricey and I love the price point of SS and the products. I don't know I love serums and love being able to cocktail them together so was just thinking more than the ageless and vit c :).
Apr 5, 2013
Cheryl Bruss
I love serums as well Like a bottle of Peptides ! :)
Apr 5, 2013
Sheila Gordon
I am thinking about selling pumps to go with the cleansers and the moisturizers (ageless and light aloe). What size pump would I need? I tried the pump that came with the lactic peel and I think it would work so when you get a chance can you let me know. I think the pump would control the product coming out better, especially since I am using mostly retail sizes for my backbar. Thanks!!
Apr 5, 2013
Lisa VanBockern
Sheila: When you order, you can request silver pumps to go with your cleansers and/or moisturizers. They will fit the neck, you just need to cut the dip tube to fit the bottle. They aren't the most reliable pumps and that's why I went to flip caps, but I still have some if you'd like to request them.
Apr 5, 2013
Shelley Hancock
Lisa, I'm getting so excited about coming out to Arizona next week and the workshops we have scheduled. I just got a new toy in today that I am going to introduce at the workshops...it's a suprise! I think eveyrone will really really like it!! This is my first trip to Arizona. Looking forward to all of us going to a great restaurant on Saturday.....you pick!!
Apr 10, 2013
Sheila Gordon
After class on Monday I have decided to step things up a notch!! Today for the first time I tried the retinol scrub with steam and put the enzyme on top (a rasp peach and then lemon zest on another client). both had clogged pores in the nose and I really loved the results!! Any suggestion for removing? I use warm towel and wiped with sponges to remove but I still feel like there is scrub left on and when I do my face massage I can't decide if it bothers the client. I used my dermafile on top of the green tea cleanser today too for the first time. :).
Question, would you ever put an enzyme close to underneath the eye for some exfoliation or on the lips?
Apr 11, 2013
Jamie Jacob
Apr 11, 2013
Sheila Gordon
Another question...sorry :).
Is there a breakdown of the products for how many uses you can get out of each size? I know you mentioned in class a 4oz mask or enzyme should give you about 16 treatments but I wondered if there was anything about other products. I obviously haven't paid close attention and need to, I know I def use way too much product but I was thinking more for my clients when selling retail like if used correctly you can get x amount of treatments so this should last you x amount of time. I usually say 2 or so months but wanted to be more exact. Just curious. As always, thanks so much!
Apr 11, 2013
Mandy Spohn
Apr 11, 2013
Lisa VanBockern
Hi Everyone:
If you feel the scrub is difficult to remove with the enzyme, I would ask how much scrub you are using? Keep trying, it will come off. If you have to use two towels I'm sure your client wouldn't mind (although you are right that you have the extra laundry). I use as many towels as needed. I actually use 4 hand towels and 6 washclothes in each facial. Yes, I know its extra laundry, but my clients love it.
If I were to exfoliate the lips, I would use the coconut (a very small amount to massage into the lips that wouldn't cause flaking). Use the Peptide Eye Cream after the coconut enzyme. I use the Peptide Eye Cream anytime I have chapped lips and it cures them immediately.
Regarding your question on how many uses you can get out of each size, please e-mail me at lisa@skinscriptrx.com and I can give you my calculations on "price per treatment" based on number of uses per item. It's a little complicated, but I divided each back bar size into number of uses and the price per use. I tend to lean on the heavy side of product usage so I think my calculations should be accurate.
Mandy: No plans for Shelley in co-present with us in Cleveland, but maybe this is her invitation??!!??
Apr 11, 2013
Cindy Greenwood
Lis -
Thanks for the awesome Lip Treatment idea!!
When I have to remove "messy" products I tend to use moistened esthetic wipes(using warm water) before I use my towels.
Clients always love a hot towel though...they won't complain. I have not a clue how some estheticians use only three towels per facial! I use four at a minimum.
Apr 12, 2013
Cindy Greenwood
Oh - and the Retinol scrub can be used as a masque close to the eyes Sheila.
I had a client with milia around eyes and Lisa suggested having her use it like this at home, but I think it could be used in the treatment room too (I would put it close to the eyes during the enzyme but wouldn't "scrub" it)
Apr 12, 2013
Sheila Gordon
Great tips!! Thanks so much!! I usually use 4 towels as well, 1 to remove enzyme, 2 after face and neck and shoulder massage and one to remove mask. I am probabl using way too much product as well :). Thanks Lisa, I would love the break down and I will email you. I appreciate it!!
Apr 12, 2013
Theresa
In addition to using towels I also find it helpful to use green tea cleanser. Give a gentle cleanse and use warm towel to remove. Helps dissolve the jojoba beads left behind from the scrub.
Apr 12, 2013
Sheila Gordon
Nice Theresa so do you do your initial cleanse, then scrub, then cleanse again?
Apr 12, 2013
Teresa Ochoa
How's the passion fruit enzyme? would like to try it...
Apr 12, 2013
Vicki Miller
Apr 12, 2013
Vicki Miller
Apr 12, 2013
Theresa
Sheila, yes I do an initial cleanse, scrub, then cleanse again.
Apr 12, 2013
Teresa Ochoa
Thank you Vicki!
Apr 12, 2013
Sheila Gordon
I love passion fruit as well! Really does give nice results! I may have a client buy a package where we do a series of the firming facials and will be a good esty and take my pictures :)
Apr 12, 2013
Sheila Gordon
thanks for the tips ladies!!!
Apr 12, 2013
Lisa Fulton
Apr 15, 2013
Shelley Hancock
My husband and I drove from the San Franscisco area all the way to Arizona yesterday (12 hours!!). It's beautiful here. I'm so excited about the workshops this weekend and to meet so many Estys that I have been chatting with and emailing! I'm also looking forward to meeting the wonderful gals in your office Lisa.....I feel like I know them because we chat so often!!
Apr 20, 2013
Tanya Randle
Apr 20, 2013
Lisa VanBockern
Kim: Regarding your message below to all Skin Script Professionals (I don't know where to reply so I'm doing it here.
Regarding the Passionfruit ... 90% of people will get red! 5% will get pink and 5% will get no response. Everyone responds differently to products. To intensify, you can add steam and even add 30% glycolic. Once you are comfortable with the response of this enzyme, I will even dermafile and penetrate it with the skin spatula. Keep in mind that this is for the tough skin who has experienced the Passionfruit with little to no response. Let me know if you have questions.
A message from Kim McCollum to all members of Skin Script Skin Care on Skin Care Professionals!
I am about to place my first Skin Script order-Everytime I go to do it I get another question! With the Passionfruit Enzyme-I hear about the redness-i put it on my face two different times-the second time in different areas-and got no redness at all...This was out of the Passionfruit enzyme sample...Wondering why no redness-I put it slightly thicker on my forehead between brows-could feel a kind of sensation I guess you could call firming? Just wondering why no redness....
Apr 20, 2013
Shelley Hancock
Lisa is showing us much love out here in Arizona! We went to a really fun restaurant last night with an incredible view of the valley. When you enter, you have the option of taking the stairs down to the dining area or going down a slide...I took by 52 year old behind down that slide just like a little kid...whoohoo!!
Lisa, see ya in a little while for our first of three workshops! Your Center is absolutely beautiful and inviting. I am honored to be there with you today and tomorrow. Let's have fun!
Apr 21, 2013
Lisa VanBockern
Shelley's toys are so much fun. She has her LED, Oxygen, SmoothScult, dermafiles, ultrasonic spatula, and more! It brings excitement back into the treatment room. Glad you are here Shelley. We will host another class today, April 22, in Tempe and looking forward to meeting more great aestheticians!
Apr 22, 2013
Shelley Hancock
Lisa...listening to you during the three workshops we did together last week turned me into a mad scientist!! I have a client here right now that ask for something "heavy duty". I've known this gal for years, she likes the tight feeling from peels. So...I did the retinal scrub and lemon zest boosted with glycolic. I left that on for about 7 minutes. Then I did three layers of TCA. She's now under my Celluma LED panel for 15 minutes. She looked great when I left the room!! It's fun playing!
Apr 27, 2013
Toni B LaHaye
Keep us posted on those results! Sounds great!
Apr 27, 2013
Devyn M.
I know that we are not supposed to use retinol if we wax but I really want to start treating this sun spot under my eye (right on my cheekbone). I also cannot give up waxing...way too much hair! :) I do have pretty sensitive skin and I'm not even sure if my skin will handle doing this (I usually can't do anything like this) but I am determined to try something else!!
I want to use the Gly/Ret Pads to spot treat my sun spot. I will only use it on that spot. I would obviously never encourage a client to do this. Does anyone have any thoughts on this?
Thank you
May 9, 2013
Lisa VanBockern
Hi Devyn - I don't have a problem with you using the gly/ret pads directly on that sunspot. If you become sensitized, then slow down on usage, but I would definitely try it.
May 9, 2013
Cheryl Bruss
Lisa I have a client on the glycolic cleanser , retinol srub and the pads is it safe to have her stop using for 3 days and then wax brows or should it be longer. also How do you feel about doing peels in the summertime as people spend more time out doors? :)
May 9, 2013
Lisa VanBockern
Hi Cheryl: I, personally, use a soft wax called Satin Smooth and I have had great results because it is so gentle. In fact, I can wax a client after her facial (even though she is using the glycolic cleanser, retinol scrub, at home) I know my wax is gentle, and I have never torn any skin using it. If you have some heavy duty wax, then I suggest stopping home exfoliants for at least one week prior to waxing. I hope this helps. Thanks!
May 9, 2013
Lisa VanBockern
Regarding peels in the summer, I will perform them as long as I know my client will not be in the sun, nor will she have any heat exposure either. I also know that my client is not fibbing to me. Believe me, I have had my share of clients beg for a peel, but tell me about their upcoming golf tournament this weekend. Or, better yet, they are spending the next week on their houseboat. I take it on a case-by-case basis on whether I will treat them in the summer. I do have clients that go to work and home, so I am comfortable treating them.
May 9, 2013
Cheryl Bruss
Thanks Lisa
this is exactly as I was thinking just love the reassurance I am using.
May 9, 2013
Tracy Watson
Are you even talking Enzyme peels? (not doing these if they're out in the sun etc....)
what other things can we give to our clients during the summer months if we don't do the peels, something besides facials, waxing etc....What can we promote?
May 9, 2013
Sheila Gordon
Spray tanning? Maybe hydrating and oxygenating facials? I think Enzyme facials are still ok??
May 9, 2013
Tracy Watson
I need to get into spray tanning. I'm thinking next yr. Thats about 1000 to get into it and I still have more facial 'stuff" I want to get.
could you tell me more about the hydrating/oxygenating facials? please. what products/protocol etc..
May 9, 2013
Brigitte McDonald
@ Tracy - You can get into spray tanning with South Seas for around $400, including the tent to spray tan in. Just buy the portable system. No streaks and super fast! You can book appt's every 15 minutes! It's the same stuff they use on Dancing with the Stars, Pirates of the Carribean, True Blood, etc..
May 9, 2013
Tracy Watson
Ok, so this is a lot more reasonable then what I thought. Is this what you are thinking:
Tahitian Tan Solution
Elite Travel Spray Tan System
Tanning Cabana Pop Up Tent
Would I need anything else. I'm getting excited this would be a great addition
May 9, 2013
Devyn M.
Thanks Lisa! I started on the pads and I REALLY hope this gets rid of my spot. So far, not irritation either, which is a miracle! :) Tomorrow will be the real test though.
May 9, 2013
Brigitte McDonald
May 9, 2013
Tracy Watson
Is this really easy to apply and it really doesn't streak or look orange?
May 9, 2013
Tracy Watson
Do you mind if I ask what you charge for this service
May 9, 2013