Just ordered some goodies to try on Thursday and received them on Saturday! WOW! I was blown away at the speedy customer service and $5.00 shipping! Already gave myself a TCA peel and so far i'm really liking the products. Thanks!
I'm glad you like the speedy delivery service. My feeling is "if I ordered it, ship it out now!!!"
Regarding the passionfruit under steam, yes it could be used under steam, BUT TRY IT FIRST without steam. The peptide in this warms the dermis of the skin to stimulate the fibroblast to produce collagen and elastin. For that reason, don't use it on rosacea or couperouse skin. I don't want anyone to over do it on the first treatment with this enzyme. It's definitely warming, but the effects feel amazing.
Lisa , Here in Wisconsin we have the law of no more than 30% and no less than 3.0 ph I was reading the comments earlier and seen something about adding the lactic to the coconut enzyme to get a 3.2 ph and give the enzyme a little more effect. 2/3 coconut to 1/3 lactic. Could I also use the glycolic the same way? and also what is the ph of the tca? and the ph of the xmas clove and harvest fruit? Thanks Lisa Some how these laws really need to change. Should I just be using over the counter products on my clients then lol!
Hi Cheryl - sorry about the untimely response - I just found this. The TCA has a ph of 1.0, although it is a very gentle peel. The Christmas Clove has a ph of 3.6 and the Harvest Fruit is 3.98. Yes, I understand about the laws by the Board of Cosmetology - it's takes someone very knowledgeable to come in and convince the board that you can use something under a 3.0.
Hi Stephene. We say one year, but with peels I honestly feel you are good for 1-3 years. I've had some old testers on my backbar and when I use them, they still accomplish the job (meaning you get the results and feel the tingle).
I Love the cucumber toner omg I have dry skin on my arms especially on the upper backside. I tried everything exfoliating ect... when I received my toner, I have been spraying my arms and lo and behold smooth arms. I need the super huge bottle now lol Thanks Lisa for a great skin care line
Hi Marie. We sold out of the new Passionfruit enzyme so it came off the website. It was extremely popular and it was requested by many to keep it permanently. However, I have to manage my inventory levels to keep product fresh (too many varieties of product would mean I would have less popular products go stale); so as I deplete existing inventory, I most likely will re-release the Passionfruit enzyme.
As an alternative, you could offer Raspberry for Valentines (Raspberry Peach enzyme). Or Strawberries and cream (Strawberry Spearmint Mask).
Used the passionfruit today and it is fabulous! I do hope you re-release it sometime soon. Started using the Lemonzest again and loving it too.
What would you call this Valentines Day facial with the passionfruit and chocolate masque? I am gonna run an Advertisment in the paper the first week of Feb. I need a catchy name and description....any ideas?
Hi Beth - so glad you love the enzymes. Here are a few thoughts on a facial name: Love Potion No. 9, Red Hot Facial, Love Facial, Passionate Chocolate Facial, Passionfruit Firming Facial. Hope these help!
Hi Lisa, just wanted to comment on the pom enzyme...I just love it! I just gave my 16 yr old son a facial using it and it is now our go to product for him! The combo of lactic and gly along with the other acids therein worked great on his asphyxiated pores and made extractions a breeze for he and I!! I followed with the Seaweed mask and you couldn't tell the next day he even had extractions. Boy is he happy and handsome!
Hey Lisa.....just wanted to let you know that yesterday I did two layers of TCA on a client and then under the LED panel for 10 minutes....BEAUTIFUL!!!
Both the gal that works for me and myself did this on clients the other day and they both look awesome. Yes, they looked considerably brighter. We used red LED for 10 minutes. We talked it over before because we were thinking about blue LED for calming after a TCA. But it's very interesting with our Luminox LED panel some people feel heat under the blue light. It's not heat coming from the lights (they are cool to the touch) it's the energy in their cells creating the heat. I would assume that the red would have that effect, not the blue! I will do this again and step up the layers of TCA and time under the panel....I'll keep you posted!
Oh no! Watch out with the blue when you are trying to lighten the skin. I've seen it appear darker after a blue session (arg!). But if you do red afterward it could mitigate that response. (although amber is my choice for lightening if available).
About the TCA, I've never done it but it's my next perchase from Skin Scripts. I have an acne client that is mostly under control who is looking to lighten PIP. How much peeling happens afterward? I'm sure the LEDs curtail alot of the peeling, though. (can you tell I love working with LED?)
Wow, these are great discussions about LED! Very informative. Christine, I want to address your question about the amount of peeling after Skin Script's TCA. Our TCA is highly buffered with kojic, arbutin and azelaic acid which are all natural lighteners. We created this TCA for all fitzpatricks (yes, you can even apply it to a Fitz 6). It's VERY gentle; on a scale of 1-10, it is normally a 2 for tingliness (some clients will get to a 6 or 7). From 2 layers, it is normal to expect 4-6 days of flaking. Rarely do I see mass peeling from this peel. It was created to correct pigmentation issues, but the azelaic is also great for hormonal acne. I spot treat A LOT with this peel after a facial with only treating acne and/or pigmentation.
Lisa, thank you for clarifying that. To be honest, I've been afraid of tca peels because of horror stories I've heard about them. But yours sounds manageable. I like that it can be layered too. That helps build courage to try it!
Lisa, when you were here in Austin doing a conference on your line, you talked about milia being an "imbalance of water within the skin". (Or that's the wording I remembered). I have a client who has stressed, barrier impaired but milia riddled skin. It's the type that mostly pop out with some gentle, mostly softening "peeling" and steaming. But the condition gets better or worse depending on her stress level. It is not just along the jaw, as I would expect with stress related breakouts, but all over her face. What products should she be using? Is there a better protocol you would be using on her? (I did lemon zest with some lactic at the very end. She has peeled like crazy in the past with just the pomegranate alone so I try to take it easy on her.)
We have bi-layers in our skin. They are made up of oil and water. We’re supposed to have the proper balance of oil and water among our skin. A lot of us are walking around with not enough water in our skin. One reason is we don’t drink enough water to get enough water from our dermis. Another reason is that we live in a dry environment where there could be a lot of trans-epidermal water loss. Think about the “main” area you see milia – it’s the eye area, right? It’s thin tissue/skin and trans-epidermal water loss could be great in those areas. If we walk around with a lack of water in our skin, the oil will start to crystallize into milia.
We have the Ageless Skin Hydrating Serum. Number 1 – it is a hyaluronic acid serum to bind more water topically. It also has an ingredient called sphinolipids – this ingredient will bind or emulsify the oil and water in our skin to create a bond to hold more water to create that proper balance of oil and water.
If your client has milia, have her start using the Ageless Skin Hydrating Serum morning and night. The next time you see your client (hopefully 4 weeks later), the milia should be much easier to extract. The next time you see your client (a total of 8 weeks later), the milia should begin to resolve itself and go away.
This Ageless Hydrating Serum also works great for acneic skin. We have natural enzymes (glycosidase and proteases) among our skin cells that that break apart desmosomes to allow for the natural shedding of our skin cells. If we are walking around with low water among our skin cells, we are going to have cells that stick together and not desquamate, hence acne or excess keratinization. I believe one of the first and foremost jobs as an estheticians is to kick in the natural exfoliation rate and that will include the Ageless Hydrating Serum.
Lisa- that is great info! I posted on another group wanting to know where I could look for a milia treatment protocol, but I am in state of michigan and cannot use lancets for extractions... what else can you suggest for me?
Robin - that's a tough one if you cannot use lancets because milia is almost impossible to extract. I would target the root cause (described below) and let the milia resolve themselves.
I am still really loving the passionfruit enzyme. My client this week said her skin looked the best it has looked after her last facial. It was the passionfruit/dark chocolate combo!
Lisa, I really enjoyed the Chicago seminar and can't wait to get the enzyme I ordered. I loved the products and I'm looking for to adding more Skin Script Products to my practice!
We're in Chicago this weekend (Saturday, Sunday, Monday) for training. We are meeting great women who share our same passion for skin care. Adrianne: Thanks for attending our class and trying some new products for your backbar. I hope you love them!
Beth - Thanks for your post on the Passionfruit enzyme. We were torn this summer whether to release a new enzyme, or bring the Passionfruit back. I chose the Passionfruit and re-ordered it; it should be back in stock within 6 weeks.
Lisa.....I always have so much fun giving workshops with you. Chicago was awesome! Thank you to all the Estys that spent the day with us. I'm looking forward to our next adventure!
Erica - we are working on Philadelphia (and New England area) for July - we are in the process of reserving conference rooms and will let you know as soon as possible!
Lisa...I learn something new and get re-excited (I know, not a word!) every time I'm at one of your trainings. I use your peels on my clients with great results, but I don't do peels on myself. After our training in Chicago, I decided to give myself a peel! I did a lemon zest with lactic yesterday and may I say...my skin looks and feels awesome today! Silly me for waiting so long!
Shelley: Isn't it funny how we don't treat ourselves to treatments? Glad you loved the Lemon and Lactic treatment!!!
Angela: Chicago was a blast! We did some sight-seeing on Saturday and had a great time. Thanks for attending the training; we really enjoy meeting estheticians who love skin care and sharing ideas.
Hi Lisa, I just loved your class in Chicago with Shelly. In one of your posts you posted a download for the Ph levels of your products, however I can't seem to find it now, can you please resubmit?
Hi Liz - I've attached the list of ph values. Let me know if you have questions. Some of the peels will be a little too strong for some states. PH%20Values%20of%20Enzymes%20and%20Peels.doc
Would you say that your enzymes are different then what would be considered a chemical peel? WI has a law that you can't perform a chemical peel below a ph 3.0, but I noticed that a lot of your enzymes are below that?
WI law states:
"1. Alpha hydroxyl acids of 30% or less, with a ph of not less than 3.0. 2. Salicylic acids of 20% or less, with a ph of not less than 3.0."
Also product container suggestion: Can you make the sunscreen in pump form, like moisturizers, instead of squeeze bottle? I have been mixing the two but the sunscreen makes a mess.
Kimberly Lovato
Thanks ;)
Dec 31, 2011
Lisa VanBockern
Hi:
I'm glad you love the Passionfruit! I think it smells amazing too. I hope your clients love it! Do you feel the firming effect?
To find it on the website, please log in to the professional account (pro login) area. The enzyme is listed under the Enzyme category.
Jan 2, 2012
Beth
Ordered today, can't wait for the new duo!
Jan 2, 2012
Kimberly Lovato
Jan 2, 2012
Marti DeCoste
Just ordered some goodies to try on Thursday and received them on Saturday! WOW! I was blown away at the speedy customer service and $5.00 shipping! Already gave myself a TCA peel and so far i'm really liking the products. Thanks!
Jan 3, 2012
Lisa VanBockern
I'm glad you like the speedy delivery service. My feeling is "if I ordered it, ship it out now!!!"
Regarding the passionfruit under steam, yes it could be used under steam, BUT TRY IT FIRST without steam. The peptide in this warms the dermis of the skin to stimulate the fibroblast to produce collagen and elastin. For that reason, don't use it on rosacea or couperouse skin. I don't want anyone to over do it on the first treatment with this enzyme. It's definitely warming, but the effects feel amazing.
Jan 4, 2012
Cheryl Bruss
Lisa , Here in Wisconsin we have the law of no more than 30% and no less than 3.0 ph I was reading the comments earlier and seen something about adding the lactic to the coconut enzyme to get a 3.2 ph and give the enzyme a little more effect. 2/3 coconut to 1/3 lactic. Could I also use the glycolic the same way? and also what is the ph of the tca? and the ph of the xmas clove and harvest fruit? Thanks Lisa Some how these laws really need to change. Should I just be using over the counter products on my clients then lol!
Jan 4, 2012
Lisa VanBockern
Hi Cheryl - sorry about the untimely response - I just found this. The TCA has a ph of 1.0, although it is a very gentle peel. The Christmas Clove has a ph of 3.6 and the Harvest Fruit is 3.98. Yes, I understand about the laws by the Board of Cosmetology - it's takes someone very knowledgeable to come in and convince the board that you can use something under a 3.0.
Jan 9, 2012
Marti DeCoste
The Retinol and Glycolic pads are wonderful! Sounds like i missed out on the Harvest Fruit and Christmas clove though lol
Jan 9, 2012
Stephene Forte
What's the shelf life on your 20% lactic peel? I've kept mine refrigerated for a year and still have half a bottle. Thanks!
Jan 10, 2012
Lisa VanBockern
Hi Stephene. We say one year, but with peels I honestly feel you are good for 1-3 years. I've had some old testers on my backbar and when I use them, they still accomplish the job (meaning you get the results and feel the tingle).
Jan 10, 2012
Cheryl Bruss
I Love the cucumber toner omg I have dry skin on my arms especially on the upper backside. I tried everything exfoliating ect... when I received my toner, I have been spraying my arms and lo and behold smooth arms. I need the super huge bottle now lol Thanks Lisa for a great skin care line
Jan 17, 2012
Lisa VanBockern
Awesome! We have a super big bottle! 16 oz.
Jan 17, 2012
Marie Ammerman
Hi Lisa,
Can the new enzymes be ordered on line? Didn't see them on your web site!
Thank you!!
Jan 19, 2012
Lisa VanBockern
Hi Marie. We sold out of the new Passionfruit enzyme so it came off the website. It was extremely popular and it was requested by many to keep it permanently. However, I have to manage my inventory levels to keep product fresh (too many varieties of product would mean I would have less popular products go stale); so as I deplete existing inventory, I most likely will re-release the Passionfruit enzyme.
As an alternative, you could offer Raspberry for Valentines (Raspberry Peach enzyme). Or Strawberries and cream (Strawberry Spearmint Mask).
Jan 19, 2012
Beth
Used the passionfruit today and it is fabulous! I do hope you re-release it sometime soon. Started using the Lemonzest again and loving it too.
What would you call this Valentines Day facial with the passionfruit and chocolate masque? I am gonna run an Advertisment in the paper the first week of Feb. I need a catchy name and description....any ideas?
Jan 19, 2012
Lisa VanBockern
Hi Beth - so glad you love the enzymes. Here are a few thoughts on a facial name: Love Potion No. 9, Red Hot Facial, Love Facial, Passionate Chocolate Facial, Passionfruit Firming Facial. Hope these help!
Jan 20, 2012
Andrea Stein
Hi Lisa, just wanted to comment on the pom enzyme...I just love it! I just gave my 16 yr old son a facial using it and it is now our go to product for him! The combo of lactic and gly along with the other acids therein worked great on his asphyxiated pores and made extractions a breeze for he and I!! I followed with the Seaweed mask and you couldn't tell the next day he even had extractions. Boy is he happy and handsome!
Jan 27, 2012
Lisa VanBockern
Andrea - you just put a big smile on my face. Thanks for sharing your feedback.
Jan 27, 2012
Shelley Hancock
Hey Lisa.....just wanted to let you know that yesterday I did two layers of TCA on a client and then under the LED panel for 10 minutes....BEAUTIFUL!!!
Feb 2, 2012
Christine Byer Esthetics
Feb 2, 2012
Lisa VanBockern
Shelley, let us know the results!
Feb 2, 2012
Shelley Hancock
Both the gal that works for me and myself did this on clients the other day and they both look awesome. Yes, they looked considerably brighter. We used red LED for 10 minutes. We talked it over before because we were thinking about blue LED for calming after a TCA. But it's very interesting with our Luminox LED panel some people feel heat under the blue light. It's not heat coming from the lights (they are cool to the touch) it's the energy in their cells creating the heat. I would assume that the red would have that effect, not the blue! I will do this again and step up the layers of TCA and time under the panel....I'll keep you posted!
Feb 3, 2012
Christine Byer Esthetics
About the TCA, I've never done it but it's my next perchase from Skin Scripts. I have an acne client that is mostly under control who is looking to lighten PIP. How much peeling happens afterward? I'm sure the LEDs curtail alot of the peeling, though. (can you tell I love working with LED?)
Feb 3, 2012
Marti DeCoste
My 520nm Green LED light is soothing and wonderful after peels, awesome for pigmentation issues....
Feb 4, 2012
Shelley Hancock
Today I did two layers of TCA and 15 minutes under the red LED panel...beautiful! I think we're on to something here!
Feb 4, 2012
Lisa VanBockern
Wow, these are great discussions about LED! Very informative. Christine, I want to address your question about the amount of peeling after Skin Script's TCA. Our TCA is highly buffered with kojic, arbutin and azelaic acid which are all natural lighteners. We created this TCA for all fitzpatricks (yes, you can even apply it to a Fitz 6). It's VERY gentle; on a scale of 1-10, it is normally a 2 for tingliness (some clients will get to a 6 or 7). From 2 layers, it is normal to expect 4-6 days of flaking. Rarely do I see mass peeling from this peel. It was created to correct pigmentation issues, but the azelaic is also great for hormonal acne. I spot treat A LOT with this peel after a facial with only treating acne and/or pigmentation.
Feb 4, 2012
Christine Byer Esthetics
Feb 4, 2012
Christine Byer Esthetics
Feb 5, 2012
Christine Byer Esthetics
Mar 15, 2012
Lisa VanBockern
Here’s my explanation on milia:
We have bi-layers in our skin. They are made up of oil and water. We’re supposed to have the proper balance of oil and water among our skin. A lot of us are walking around with not enough water in our skin. One reason is we don’t drink enough water to get enough water from our dermis. Another reason is that we live in a dry environment where there could be a lot of trans-epidermal water loss. Think about the “main” area you see milia – it’s the eye area, right? It’s thin tissue/skin and trans-epidermal water loss could be great in those areas. If we walk around with a lack of water in our skin, the oil will start to crystallize into milia.
We have the Ageless Skin Hydrating Serum. Number 1 – it is a hyaluronic acid serum to bind more water topically. It also has an ingredient called sphinolipids – this ingredient will bind or emulsify the oil and water in our skin to create a bond to hold more water to create that proper balance of oil and water.
If your client has milia, have her start using the Ageless Skin Hydrating Serum morning and night. The next time you see your client (hopefully 4 weeks later), the milia should be much easier to extract. The next time you see your client (a total of 8 weeks later), the milia should begin to resolve itself and go away.
This Ageless Hydrating Serum also works great for acneic skin. We have natural enzymes (glycosidase and proteases) among our skin cells that that break apart desmosomes to allow for the natural shedding of our skin cells. If we are walking around with low water among our skin cells, we are going to have cells that stick together and not desquamate, hence acne or excess keratinization. I believe one of the first and foremost jobs as an estheticians is to kick in the natural exfoliation rate and that will include the Ageless Hydrating Serum.
Hope this helps!
Mar 15, 2012
Christine Byer Esthetics
Mar 15, 2012
Robin Lemon
Lisa- that is great info! I posted on another group wanting to know where I could look for a milia treatment protocol, but I am in state of michigan and cannot use lancets for extractions... what else can you suggest for me?
Mar 17, 2012
Lisa VanBockern
Robin - that's a tough one if you cannot use lancets because milia is almost impossible to extract. I would target the root cause (described below) and let the milia resolve themselves.
Mar 19, 2012
Beth
I am still really loving the passionfruit enzyme. My client this week said her skin looked the best it has looked after her last facial. It was the passionfruit/dark chocolate combo!
Mar 22, 2012
Adrianne Couvé
Lisa, I really enjoyed the Chicago seminar and can't wait to get the enzyme I ordered. I loved the products and I'm looking for to adding more Skin Script Products to my practice!
Apr 29, 2012
Lisa VanBockern
We're in Chicago this weekend (Saturday, Sunday, Monday) for training. We are meeting great women who share our same passion for skin care. Adrianne: Thanks for attending our class and trying some new products for your backbar. I hope you love them!
Beth - Thanks for your post on the Passionfruit enzyme. We were torn this summer whether to release a new enzyme, or bring the Passionfruit back. I chose the Passionfruit and re-ordered it; it should be back in stock within 6 weeks.
Apr 30, 2012
Ann Prendergast
thank you for choosing to bring the Passionfruit enzyme back Lisa!!! I am just thrilled by this news!!!
Apr 30, 2012
Dorothy Obazee
Thank you the wonderful training yesterday!!! I really enjoyed it! You and Shelly were awesome.
Apr 30, 2012
Erica Suppa
When will the training head to Philadelphia?
Apr 30, 2012
Shelley Hancock
Lisa.....I always have so much fun giving workshops with you. Chicago was awesome! Thank you to all the Estys that spent the day with us. I'm looking forward to our next adventure!
May 1, 2012
Lisa VanBockern
Erica - we are working on Philadelphia (and New England area) for July - we are in the process of reserving conference rooms and will let you know as soon as possible!
May 1, 2012
angela testa~kerivan
May 2, 2012
Shelley Hancock
Lisa...I learn something new and get re-excited (I know, not a word!) every time I'm at one of your trainings. I use your peels on my clients with great results, but I don't do peels on myself. After our training in Chicago, I decided to give myself a peel! I did a lemon zest with lactic yesterday and may I say...my skin looks and feels awesome today! Silly me for waiting so long!
May 3, 2012
Lisa VanBockern
Shelley: Isn't it funny how we don't treat ourselves to treatments? Glad you loved the Lemon and Lactic treatment!!!
Angela: Chicago was a blast! We did some sight-seeing on Saturday and had a great time. Thanks for attending the training; we really enjoy meeting estheticians who love skin care and sharing ideas.
May 3, 2012
Lizabeth Kristiansen
Hi Lisa, I just loved your class in Chicago with Shelly. In one of your posts you posted a download for the Ph levels of your products, however I can't seem to find it now, can you please resubmit?
Thanks
May 3, 2012
Lizabeth Kristiansen
I just found this info on my states lic. website & just wanted to double check that your peels meet these standards?
1. Alpha hydroxyl acids of 30% or less, with a ph of not less than 3.0.
2. Salicylic acids of 20% or less, with a ph of not less than 3.0.
Thanks,
Liz
May 3, 2012
Lisa VanBockern
Hi Liz - I've attached the list of ph values. Let me know if you have questions. Some of the peels will be a little too strong for some states. PH%20Values%20of%20Enzymes%20and%20Peels.doc
May 3, 2012
Dorothy Obazee
I have 2 questions:
May 4, 2012
Lizabeth Kristiansen
Would you say that your enzymes are different then what would be considered a chemical peel? WI has a law that you can't perform a chemical peel below a ph 3.0, but I noticed that a lot of your enzymes are below that?
WI law states:
"1. Alpha hydroxyl acids of 30% or less, with a ph of not less than 3.0.
2. Salicylic acids of 20% or less, with a ph of not less than 3.0."
Also product container suggestion: Can you make the sunscreen in pump form, like moisturizers, instead of squeeze bottle? I have been mixing the two but the sunscreen makes a mess.
May 4, 2012