I live in okklahoma and am an esthetician. Been researching for months on advanced esthetic courses and how to get certified and cant find anything any where! I would just like to add some services to my menu. Or persue a career at a med spa.

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Kasey

Those names are made up.  Sorry to tell you. Your either one of the following:

1. Esthetician

2. RN with Esty License/Hours

3. Dermatologist

If you want to be a medical esthetician or a master then I would suggest this:

When you can apply any acid peel at any level (according to your state laws) with confidence across the entire Fitzpatrick scale and you can do this consistently with only minor post peel issues you will be very very close.

Many who claim these titles  have taken more classes or education but basically they are just well educated and or have worked side by side with a derm and want to be acknowledged for that effort and hard work. Also, many may have worked alongside a derm on MD only equipment. 

I hope this helps. I am trying to keep this answer short as it can be long and detailed.

Tammy

Natalie

I understand. I am aware of this. But what I was trying to say is that if you have spent any time with an RN and or an MD you would maybe believe as I do that when you can perform the peels as I mentioned across the entire Fitzpatrick scale you will have the hours and then some and you might not care about the title because it still comes down to one thing:  Your knowledge and understanding of the skin.

When I say made up... I was referring to the difference between the skin care pros who truly understand and perform and those that don't.  There is another post that I commented on to make my point exactly.  An RN who cuts corners and a skin care pro who is having trouble working next to her as a result of the corners being cut.  I doubt she would call that RN a master or medical anything.

Just because you have the time and money and intellect to do the bookwork does not make you a 'master' or a 'medical'. I admire those that do but what I find is the skin care pros like myself who have taken another path get overshadow by those who cling to a title rather then the success of each and every client. 

I could go from school and as quickly as possible take the extra hours but time on the skin is the only true indication of ones mastering of a trade.  Not trying to take away from anybody just the path and opinion I have.

Tammy

It is a belief system that I have and too many people hide behind time in school and or paper on the wall and where it is really at is in the dirt.  Thank you. :))

Tammy

I am very lucky to have an International Dermal Institute in my city which offers really great (very thorough) advanced classes for Estheticians who are already licensed.  While you are by no means then licensed as a "master" esthetician, I think they go a long way in helping you boost your knowledge and learn new skills.  The closest one to you may be in Dallas, but if you know that there is a class you'd like to take, it may be worth the drive and an overnight stay.  

I've also learned a little about becoming a CIDESCO certified esthetician, which will qualify you to work all aroudn the world.  It requires some post-graduate training and an exam, but there are several certified schools around the country, so that's worth a look.  

And in the end, if you've been doing this long enough and you feel that you are an expert in your field, as long as your state doesn't regulate it,  you can call yourself anything you want.

you need to go to a state that offers it. I an in Utah and I have my masters.
Tammy. You ARE dead on the nail because I am blessed to have the trust & confidence in clients that are Registered Nurses and they are looking to me to help them and keep it simple so they understand the process to get to the Goals set ! Because things don't happen over a single night but if you understand the process ,there more likely to follow your lead and be committed to there home care and there follow up appointments. Thanks for clearing the TITLE debate !!!!!!!!

Those names are made up.

Depends on what state you are in...

In Virginia, "Master Esthetician" is a class of license based on the number of hours of training in specific areas/treatments.  Check with your state board for requirements if such a title exists in OK

In VA the difference - among others -  is...

A. The curriculum for estheticians shall include the following minimum practical performances:

Consultations, cleansings and analysis of face and body 35
Manual facials and treatments 65
Machine or electrical facials and treatments 50
Body treatments and back treatments 20
Makeup 25
Hair Removal 25
TOTAL 220

B. The curriculum for master estheticians shall include the following minimum performances:

Advanced treatments 40
Microdermabrasion 50
Chemical exfoliation 75
Lymphatic drainage treatments 50
TOTAL 215

My husband and I have been thinking of moving to VA.  Do you know if you have to be a licensed "master" esthetician to be able to perform peels and chemical exfoliation???

There is the idea (Malcolm Gladwell, Outliers) that 10,000 hours of dedicated, mindful practice with an eye to honing one's skills creates a master... in any discipline. Of course researchers have debated this against the roles of natural talent, passion, environment, etc., but it still seems like a good mental tool to help determine mastery. So if you've been working as an esthetician full time, fully booked for 5 years, focusing on refining your skills, Gladwell would argue that you area master.
I feel that the best way is to just start working at a medical spa. It can't hurt to just apply yourself. As soon as I finished school, even before I finished, I looked everywhere, on Craigslist too, and just applied myself, put myself out there, and by doing that I actually got a job right away (not saying that happens for everyone but you definitely have a better chance).

I started working at a local medi-spa, I didn't need to have any special license to start working there, just a basic Esthetician license (then again I do live in NY, so I'm not sure if it's different there than it is here). They had me doing basic facials at first, and then trained me to use their microderm machine, and chemical peels. Then, they also trained me for their laser machine. The experience turned out to be not such a great one in the end (long story), but overall, I learned A LOT, and I'm definitely glad that I had it. A lot of valuable things that I took with me and apply on a regular basis, because one day, I too, would like to get more into the medical spa field, except put my own little holistic touch on it. I feel the best way to learn is to just jump in, if you can, and get a hands on experience.

Also, there are many trade shows that offer classes. I'm not sure if there are any coming up close to where you live, but I highly recommend checking. I attended an Esthetics show in Philadelphia in October, and attended a few medical spa classes. One of them was about how to get a job at a medical spa, and how it works just in general. Another one was about safety precautions, and things you really need to know to protect yourself and your clients. Another one was about starting a medical spa business. I earned certificates for attending these classes, which are really good to put on a resume when looking for a job in the field. Like I said, I highly suggest you look into this, maybe even call or email ASCP and ask them (they usually attend these shows) and find out if there are any shows coming up by you, or a show that you wouldn't have to travel that far for.
In the meantime, you can start by learning more about microdermabrasion and peels, things like that, because that's usually where it starts for an Esthetician in the medical spa world. Unless you want to learn more about laser. I even learn a ton of information just researching things, different machines and peels. Hope this helps!
Okay, so I was just flipping through a magazine, when I saw that the International Congress of Esthetics is going have a show in the beginning of May in Dallas, Texas. I instantly thought back to this post, and figured I would give you a heads up, since Oklahoma isn't too far from Texas. It's definitely a trip (I used to have family in both Oklahoma and Dallas that me and my family would drive back and fourth too), but it may be well worth it for you. They willl be having Medical Aesthetics seminars, probably very similar, if not the same, as the ones I attended when I went to this show. As I mentioned, these seminars are very valuable if you utilize them correctly, and you do earn certificates of training completion and/or attendance for each one, that you can add to your resume when looking for a job in this part of the field:) This may not be the full hands-on training that your looking for exactly, however this can definitely be utilized as a step closer to what you want, and this will give you a lot of knowledge that you need to know in order to even make it into the field, and stay in the field. AND since ASCP is a part of this, you would get a member discount on the tickets, I think 35%? Off.

Start with the NCEA and they have many continuing esthetician classes as well.

NCEA Commission on Accreditation (COA)
The NCEA Commission on Accreditation (COA) was formed to facilitate and supervise the continuing education requirements of the skin care professional for recertification and/or relicensure.

Purpose
Since 2000, the National Coalition of Estheticians, Manufacturers/Distributors & Associations (NCEA) has been defining and conveying standards of practice, while educating the industry and the public. In May 2007, the National NCEA Certification Program was launched to recognize the professional credential of NCEA Certified awarded to a skin care professional that has met the competency standards as set-forth by the NCEA's 1200 hour Esthetician Job Task Analysis. 
It represents the highest skin care credential available in the United States, and adherence to the code of ethics of the profession. 
NCEA Continuing Education (CEs) is required to be maintained by NCEA Certified professionals and some state regulatory boards may also require CEs for relicensure.

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