LED Treatment Pricing

 

Is anyone using LED Light Therapy in their treatment rooms?  If so, what kind of results are you getting, what sort of treatments are you doing, and if you don't mind sharing, how much do you charge?  Do you do it as a treatment add-on or incorporate it into a facial price?

 

Thanks for any input!

 

Trish

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Permalink Reply by Deborah Kenney on June 6, 2012 at 5:27pm

I am reading all the input, I would love to have one with microcurrent. A teacher at school brought hers and I saw immediate results with the combo. However, her's was soo out of my price range and still do not have the bus. to support it.

Permalink Reply by coldsalineplexus on May 14, 2013 at 8:06pm

From what I can tell, you don't need to spend a lot on a microcurrent machine to see results.  The handhelds (brand-name and off-brand) do give very nice results.  Using handhelds, I have thrown them into the washing machine twice, so now I use less expensive models and still get the results I have seen with higher-priced.  

My caveat is that I would probably not buy something that combined microcurrent and LED, for two three reasons.  One is that you could start with inexpensive microcurrent and then add a good quality LED when you can afford it (quality does matter with LED); the other is that if one component breaks, you have to ship out both of your modalities for repair, which means you can't do treatments.  For this reason, I always buy separate units, even though it takes a bit longer in the facial to complete the modalities separately.  The third very important reason is that LED light is best used when focused onto each treatment spot for 20-30 seconds.  Microcurrent needs to be moved around the face consistently during the treatment.  If you had them both in the same treatment head, you'd be sacrificing the results of one modality for the other.  Hope that helps!!

Permalink Reply by yardley on May 14, 2013 at 8:10pm
hi Christine! what kind of microcur do you have? also how do you incorporate it with your facials? what skincare line do you use? thank you!
Permalink Reply by coldsalineplexus on May 14, 2013 at 8:33pm

Hi Johanna!  My facial design is as follows: 

  • Analysis
  • Double cleanse
  • Exfoliation
  • Extractions
  • LED lights
  • Custom serum+mask combo infused with microcurrent or ultrasonic
  • Remove mask and apply serum, moisture, and protection

As you can see, the products that I use under microcurrent could be anything from a cooling peptide mask to a brightening serum to hyaluronic acid to an AHA serum (only if the chosen exfoliation did not perform as strongly as we had hoped).  I use such a variety of products and lines, and have cherry-picked my products over the years by keeping accounts open even after companies have discontinued or changed many of the products I used to use.  I also keep even more lines open for backbar than I do for retail.  It's really all about what products match your treatment philosophy and get the results your clients need.  For example, if your treatment philosophy and product choices reflect organic ingredients, you would perform your microcurrent over an effective organic serum.  If you have medi-spa clientele, you'd perform it over something with a lot of research, like glycosaminoglycans, hyaluronic, spin trap, or peptide.  For me, my clients run the range, so I am really taking their individual skincare choices into consideration with every facial.

At the moment I would recommend searching for handheld microurrent devices on eBay.  No microcurrent rep has been able to persuade me that the expensive name-brand models are any different, technologically, other than sometimes having the same current delivered in wave patterns or pulses.  Neither of these features has proven to me to be necessary for results.  If there's a microcurrent vendor out there who wants to explain a little better to me, I'm open to learning!  I just feel that with my current understanding of the technology, the inexpensive ones work just as well.  It is not an endorsement to buy cheap equipment from eBay across all categories of esthetic equipment - in fact, generally I feel the opposite!  I hope that makes sense!

Permalink Reply by Karen Hurley on June 11, 2012 at 5:50am

Question:

For LED treatments:  is this a 'one series' treatment to improve appearance, and then homecare for maintenance?

-or-

Is it ongoing therapy to maintain results?

It would seem to me that if this service is an ongoing therapy, an esthetician would want to invest in a hands-free option, to continue to build the business and make the repat business easy and efficient to provide.

Permalink Reply by Shelley Hancock on June 11, 2012 at 7:04am

You are spot on Karen! It is an ongoing maintenance and the clients do get hooked on it....so, hands-free is the way to go! I have clients that come for appointments inbetween their regular facial treatments, just to lay under the panel for 30 minutes. It brings in extra revenue and I'm not even in the room!

Permalink Reply by Nicole on October 19, 2012 at 7:39pm

I know this is an old thread but I just bought a used LED machine (SkinMate Photo Rejuvenation).  I have not used an LED machine before and I have a couple of questions.  This machine has the hand held pieces but not the probes.  Do you actually touch the hand pieces to the client's skin?  Do you apply a gel or serum first?  If so what kind?  Any help is appreciated.

Thank you!

Permalink Reply by coldsalineplexus on May 14, 2013 at 8:15pm

It is best to get the lights as close to the client's skin as possible, which usually means touching.  If you're dealing with post-extraction acne skin (suppurating lesions), you will want to saran wrap your hand held pieces first.  On most clients you can touch it to the skin and just clean it with a sani-wipe (since the plastic and glass are non-porus).  

Most manufacturers recommend doing LED on clean, dry skin (post exfoliation, post extractions, minimum of barrier between the light and the dermis), unless they are selling products, in which case you tend to notice they recommend doing it over their products.  The only research showing an improvement with products on the skin is a study that was done with a green tea serum, so if you happen to have one, then I'd use it.  The most important thing is that anything like sunscreen or makeup is going to reflect the light rays off the skin and prevent absorption.  Even a lot of non-SPF moisturizers and serums contain incidental titanium dioxide (or even thickeners, opacifiers, or other ingredients that could prevent photoabsorption), so dry skin is best.  

You may want to look up or call SkinMate for a manual, and specifically to find out how long the light needs to be applied to each treatment spot.  A treatment spot is considered the area that is treated by one hand piece by holding it on to the skin.  Typical treatment spot times are 20-30 seconds per treatment spot, but usually going longer will not hurt (unless the client starts to burn, which would take a reeeeallly long time).

Good luck with your new machine!  I know it can be nerve-wracking to incorporate new things when your clients are used to something already, but I think you'll find LED is a great adjunct and will push your results a bit further with no irritation.

Permalink Reply by Shelley Hancock on October 20, 2012 at 6:33am

Hi Nicole....yes, you want to hold the hand pieces up against the skin. For years, I did LED on clean dry skin and then I started to play with products on the skin. This works well. The product can't be anything dense that the LED can not get through...does that make sense?

Permalink Reply by Nicole on October 20, 2012 at 10:01am

Thank you Shelley!

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