Microdermabrasion Systems and IPL Hair Removal Systems
Hello Skin Care Professionals- I am a licensed Esthetician who sells Microderms and IPL ( Intense Pulse Light) Systems for www.vioramed.com Please send any questions along if you would like to increase revenue in your business. I have been using the systems in my practice and love them both. Amazing results.
Carolyn
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Permalink Reply by Katrina Kulm on
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Hi Carolyn,
Can you tell me more about the IPL for acne and hair removal and how much it is? Is it more effective than waxing? I have not purchased any IPL systems since they're expensive but I've always been interested in how it works and having it for one of my services.
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Permalink Reply by Jamie on
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IPL or BBL work great for laser hair reduction, hyperpigmentation, vascular issues, skin tightening .
Look at your insurance plan befor purchasing. You might have to add more coverage.
Katrina Kulm said:Hi Carolyn,
Can you tell me more about the IPL for acne and hair removal and how much it is? Is it more effective than waxing? I have not purchased any IPL systems since they're expensive but I've always been interested in how it works and having it for one of my services.
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Be careful with using Crystal or crystal free microderm. I have noticed it has been over used. Some skin types such as people with cooperose or telagic. Skin would be contraindicated for this type of modality . Im just saying this because I have recently seen patients that have purchased microderm packages at a spa and it has made their skin condition worse. Microderm is not for everyone.
I would use dermaplaning with a light enzyme peel or possible hydrofacial on this type of skin.
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Hi....I was trying to find out more about dermaplaning...I googled it and saw clips on how to perform it. i thought it would be a great service to offer, but felt it probably wasn't approved for estys to do in California. I did notice, while I was on the internet,that numerous spa/salons in Southern California were offering this service, so I called State Board to inquire. They said in California, estys were not allowed to do this service since a scapel is involved. This was disappointing!!! Anyone else have info on this? JM
Be careful with using Crystal or crystal free microderm. I have noticed it has been over used. Some skin types such as people with cooperose or telagic. Skin would be contraindicated for this type of modality . Im just saying this because I have recently seen patients that have purchased microderm packages at a spa and it has made their skin condition worse. Microderm is not for everyone.
I would use dermaplaning with a light enzyme peel or possible hydrofacial on this type of skin.
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Permalink Reply by Nondy Llewellyn on
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The only information you need was given to you by California State Board.
Fugeddaboutit.
Had an esthetician doing the La Roche-Posay MicroPeel and MicroPeel Plus and doing dermaplaning. She worked in a doctors office, and both she AND her doc got fined for using a scalpel/blade type of instrument, and for using peels with too low a pH (3.0 in CA)...
An esthetician...EVEN when working in a doctors office, is NOT exempt from licensing parameters!!!
Just because soemone teaches this and sells stuff by NO means means we can actually USE in CA...
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I'm very aware of what an esthetician can and cannot do in California. Dermaplaning was new to me and I had not heard of it before yesterday. Since there are sooooo many salons in California offering it, I called California State Board for more info. No one at the California State Board that I spoke to (three different people) knew what is was. They tranferred me to three different departments, hoping someone knew what the service was about. Even the people in the violation department had not heard of it. I told them where I googled so they could see what i was talking about. They thanked me and said they would research it. I still would like to know which states allow it, etc. My questions still stands! And by the way, it has nothing to do with trying to be exempt from licensing parameters!!!!!! JM
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..."that numerous spa/salons in Southern California were offering this service, so I called State Board to inquire. They said in California, estys were not allowed to do this service since a scapel is involved. This was disappointing!!! Anyone else have info on this?"
I'm confused. And I did not mean to get you upset. You did ask if anyone "has info on this". So, you called State Board and they told you "estys were not allowed to do this service"...Or..."No one at the California State Board that I spoke to (three different people) knew what is was" Which is it?
And really I have to ask what difference does it make which states allow this...if you don't live in them?
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Let me explain it to you, since you are confused. No one at State Board knew what i was talking about until i explained the procedure to each of them. Finally, after explaining the procedure to the third person (to the lady in the state violations department), and BASED on what I told her, she THEN said that estys in Calif. are not allowed to do this procedure. I don't know why you would ask me what difference it makes to me, but since you did, I will tell you. I used to live in several other states and have good friends (who are also estys) who still live there. We have always shared alot of information, including skin care legislation and how it is handled in different states. All of us are involved in state legislation and have been for several years, Knowing how other states petition change related to skin care has helped us in working with legislation. Hope that helps to clear up your confusion. JM
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Thanks Jeanette for the explanation.
I learned dermaplaning years ago, and only do it on myself. Great after I had IPL to reduce sun spots.
I would be very interested in working with legeslation as well. Do you mainly do that in person? Or can you get involved via email, or letters, etc.? Do you attend state board meetings, and discussions? Are you allowed to bring up subjects like this to state board?
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I might try dermaplaning on myself...have to think about that one. Legislation is exciting to work with. Before I retired from Corporate life as VP of different corporations, I was very involved in legislation and state and federal compliance regulations, including employment law. I was also in charge of state compliance and regulations (in my industry) for approximately ten states. When I retired and decided to become an esty, I missed working with legislation, and state and federal compliance regulations, so I've become involved in skin care legislation. And yes, to your questionss listed above. I think you would like legislation, the whole process is fascinating!
JM
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Found this exchange very interesting! Many great issues were raised regarding Este's scope of work (CA), CA State Board, legislation, etc! I'm never suprised by the things I hear Estes in Calif are doing (especially in metro areas) in their practice... Ultrasound, Hydro Colon Therapy, Dermaplanning, Eyelash perming, mole removal, etc., etc. Medical, para-medical, clinical esthetians? It's just a name...there are no license for this. Be it a skin studio, salon, day spa, or medical office, at the end of the day, we all have the same license! Depending on what day you call or who you speak with, State Board is inconsistant when answering questions regarding the use of modalities. And who can blame them...go to a trade show and look at all the modalities manufacturers are selling. Their job is to sell you equipment not whether you legally can use them in your state! My rule of thumb, if your scope of practice doesn't say you can do it, doesn't mean you can. Legislation is great and interesting work. Who knows what the future holds for us, will we eventually become partners in the medical community...hum!
Ray
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