My client got her certification in facials and microdermabrasion without a license...how?
I have this client who does makeup and was set up to go to esthetic school but it didn't work out..today I see a post on facebook saying how she has her certification in facials and micro and she needs people to practice on...how is this possible..she didnt get her license or go to school...please enlighten me anyone who has heard of this...its annoying to me when i studied hard, went to school, and did things the right way when i personally know she didnt do any of it! the only thing i can think of is shes working in a place that doesnt care about licenses ...
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Permalink Reply by Abram Herman on
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Many people consider the training from equipment manufacturers a "certification," even though it has no bearing on the legality of practicing with the machine without a license. It may well be that she's "certified" by the company she bought the machines from, but it's still illegal for her to practice without an esthetics license. You could check with your state board about the rules regarding these practices in your state, and if you're worried you can of course report any violations to the state board as well. For contact info, check out http://www.ascpskincare.com/become/boardinfo.php
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Permalink Reply by Claire Barnes on
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I teach waxing and I offer a certificate following the class and I have to be very, very careful when students are inquiring about the class as some of them are not licensed but want to learn. I always check license's etc for this reason as some people think a piece of paper grants them the right to go out and practice privately. You will be amazed at how many people I could teach the class too, take their money and hand out a certificate to anybody. There is always somebody trying to push the envelope and sneak through the cracks!
I am sure there are some educators that might not check whether a student is licensed or not or just take their word for it that they are. I remember many years ago taking a Dermalogica class for facials and I was never asked at the time to produce or show my license. (I am sure their policy has changed now...i hope)
Maybe that is how she became certified?? Just a thought.....
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Permalink Reply by Jennifer Kligman on
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Hey Claire! Dermalogica definitely changed their policy (thank goodness!). They now require proof of your esthetician license before you can take and participate in classes. It is important since I really think that the real issue is that people don't realize that a certification isn't the same as a license and the license must always come first or at least in conjunction with the certification. Good for you for checking!
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Permalink Reply by iskyn for me on
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I know sounds absurd ! While working for a dermatologist I was certified for laser (YAG,CO2,Genesis, and hair removal) The question was not even raised as to my qualifications prior to the testing. Not sure that I would take the post @ face value - I am sure you will know everything you need (in time). Bests
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You might want to pull your client aside and let her know that she is most like breaking the law. In most states, you have to be licensed to perform these. If she understands the law and agrees to stop then all is well. If not, you might consider reporting her. It's a tough call. There is an esthy in my area that performs mobile services out of her home which is illegal in my state and I am torn as to whether I should report her. I'd hate for her to lose her license, but she is a direct competitor.
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Lots of Esthy's breach what they are supposed to be doing for different reasons in many, many states. In California technically you are not supposed to work from home but many do or they work mobile when they are not supposed to be doing.
If the reason you are wanting to 'snitch' on her is because she is a direct competitor in all honesty, I think you are creating bad karma for yourself! If she is doing procedures that are damaging to a clients health etc then fair enough some might need reporting, but if it's because she is your competitor....bad karma.
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I agree with both you and Jamie which is why I am torn. I've never been one to "tattle tale" and I find that it does create bad karma and goes against who I am as a person (someone who minds their own business and just tries to be the best at what I do and help others along the way). However, the reason I am torn is that I really feel that there is a legitimate reason for these laws to be in place. In my case, for someone who operates out of there home without an Esthetician Salon License (since they can't operate from their home in our state), it means that they are operating under the radar without the required inspections and insurance. It doesn't necessarily mean that they are harming people in any way, only that they haven't had to prove that they aren't. It's also a bit unfair that I've jumped through hoop after hoop and paid a lot of money to comply with the law.
But, because I know that this might simply be a case of not knowing the law, my preference is to simply talk to her and let her know that she might be in violation. And honestly, I've heard great things about her and since I have my place with room for another esthy, it might make for a great partnership. I can offer her an affordable way to become legit and she can partner up with me for those times when we really need two estheticians (like for bridal parties or skin care parties or couples' facials). I'm sure she wouldn't mind the business or being able to operate above the table.
But in the end, I think my only real obligation is to tell her the law and to let her know that she might be in violation. I am not in the business of regulation - that is the State Board's job. And why make an enemy when I can make a friend and potential business partner.
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Permalink Reply by Jamie Jacob on
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I think reporting people that break the law is important. It keeps everyone honest and those who cheat should be called on the carpet. Those of us who work legit have more expenses. If you break the law it was your choice to do so. Pay the cosequences. Preserve the industry.
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Permalink Reply by Summer Ambroz on
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I know in Kansas, if you work under a Dr. you can do botox as well as other treatments such as laser and dermabrasion.
Heck, I even have clients that say they get their brows waxed at a nail salon. Waxing isn't a part of being a licensed nail tech in Missouri or Kansas.
I know either way... if I am gonna be doing any service on someone, I would like to be fully certified and credible bc that is what is gonna set me apart and protect me.
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