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Permalink Reply by Jeanne Cowan on October 19, 2011 at 10:49pm

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I am not familiar with the system, but has she thought of laser or electrogy?

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Permalink Reply by Audrey on October 20, 2011 at 8:07am

Second the advice of electrology. If these are whisker type hairs then electrology isthe way to go. Electrology just needs the hair long enough to feel so you don't have to wait as long as waxing. if she can tweeze them then electrology can be done.

 

Do your client a favo and refer them to an electrologist! Then she'll come back to you for all her skin care needs.

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Permalink Reply by jackie mozingo on October 21, 2011 at 10:46am

I used the Depliar system, I didn't see any difference with ingrown hairs. Most of my clients didn't see a reduction either with Depilar, only about 1 or 2 out of 10. And one tried to sue me, I tried getting the clinical studies from them and they kept putting me off. I even had a lawyer just incase this person went any further. So be careful how you promote it, and I charged 150.00 for a brazilian wax with the depilar.  Don't be fooled by this product. I lost alot of respect from some of my long time clients.

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Permalink Reply by Katrina Kulm on October 24, 2011 at 4:51pm

Jackie, 

Thanks for telling me about your experience even though it was bad. I realize it is expensive for us to buy it and also to to sell it, which can be an issue for some clients since it is just a product. It also seems the Depilar system would take a long time (8-24 months!) before making any if at all difference in hair growth and maybe just waxing does the job anyway! I would much rather save my money to buy a laser machine for hair removal because you can't go wrong with charging more with a machine and the results would be faster (I'd hope). I'm interested in this machine Shelly Hancock sells, http://www.shelleyhancock.com/radiancyspatouchii.html but would like to know if anyone has bought it and their feedback on using it as well. 

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Permalink Reply by Lizabeth Kristiansen on October 21, 2011 at 2:39pm

I used it on a couple of clients and I noticed results after the first try and even though I have stop using it on my clients her hair has seem to stay the same... I was expecting for the hair to grow back and it has not. I never saw any ingrown hairs.

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Permalink Reply by Gina Williamson on October 21, 2011 at 4:08pm

personally- I would refer her to someone who does electrolysis, and just continue to treat her skin for the hyperpigmentation. those hairs are so stubborn and annoying- and I've always had bad luck personally with waxing that area w/ingrowns and breakouts...

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Permalink Reply by Kathy Waskow on October 25, 2011 at 4:43am

As an electrologist I can tell you that not only will all of the hair eventually be gone, but the hyperpigmentation will fade as the hair goes away and the skin has a chance to heal.

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Permalink Reply by Katrina Kulm on October 25, 2011 at 7:17pm

Hi Kathy, 

Doesn't she have to grow it out to get it treated with Electrolysis every 3 weeks? How fast would she see results of thinner hair..or does it depend on the client? The reason I'm asking is because she can't even wait 2 weeks to leave the hair alone so I can wax her. 

Another question, she has some tiny bumps going on around the hairs..I am not sure if it is folliculitis..but can electrolysis make that worse?

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Permalink Reply by Kathy Waskow on October 26, 2011 at 5:00am

The hair has to be long enough to see and then to grasp to remove after treated, maybe an eighth of an inch long.  Depending on how fast it grows that may take 1 to 4 days if keeping it trimmed, the finer the hair the slower the growth.  If she is pulling every day it will grow back in between 2 to 4 weeks later, rotating growth back in as she pulled it.  For people who really have a hard time letting it grow, short multiple visits per week usually work best.  She doesn't need to let it grow long, keeping it trimmed short until the day of her appointment is fine.

Not being able to see it I can't tell you for sure what is going on, but she may have some ingrown hairs causing the bumps.  Really coarse hair often causes a little bump under the skin before it emerges.  Electrolysis will not make it worse.  Some people are prone to ingrown hair, and as the follicles are disabled from hair growth that will go away.

After the first six weeks of being able to treat all of the hair at least once she should start to see less hair.  How coarse the hair is and what she has been doing to it will play a role in how fast it goes away.  Sometimes if a follicle isn't permanently disabled, it may grow back a hair finer in texture before it stops producing altogether.

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Permalink Reply by Katrina Kulm on November 7, 2011 at 7:02pm

Kathy, 

I asked this client if she would consider Electroylsis instead of me waxing her. She said she had it done on her upper lip before and she had a bad experience with it of causing white/yellow stuff coming out of her pores..sounded like an infection..maybe related to folliculitis? Also she said that it would scab. Since she had that happen, she said she would prefer to continue with waxing. I have never heard of this before, if you or anyone has an answer to this I'd love to know! 

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Permalink Reply by Audrey on November 7, 2011 at 7:17pm

Bad electrologist! This is simply bad technique, improper needle insertion. It's really unfortunate this happened to her.

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Permalink Reply by Kathy Waskow on November 8, 2011 at 4:23am

It sounds like she might of had over treatment.  I would definitely not go back to that electrologist.  There are good and bad in every field.  It really does work, sometimes one might get tiny, tiny little scabs, but they will fall off in a few days.  I would tell her that yes, she did have a bad experience and she should try someone else, and to explain to them exactly what happened.

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