Spa solutions for the following skin conditions: ?
Those of you that use Epicuren. What facial/peels would you recommend with the following skin conditions ?
1-Sun Damaged
2-Melasma
3-Milia
4-Deep pocketed acne scarring
5-Basic acne scarring
I use Phytomer, Epicuren, and H2T Pumpkin Peel in my spa. We only use Phytomer in our European facials and hydrating facials. More for the luxury. Very basic. I feel as though Epicuren and H2T are more result orientated skin care, so I need to really have a go-to for these. As Im sure y'all can agree, those are the main visible concerns of clients (besides wrinkles). If you have any other recommendations on what you have seen visibly work on your clients, I am very open. I work for a corporation so am limited on extreme peels outside the lines. But I need to incorporate some better results. Im an esthetician that feels like Im at a dead end with my clients because of the limitations of corporate. With some help and research, Im hoping I can open the dead end street. Thanks! Please everyone, give me as much feedback as you can.
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Permalink Reply by Marty Glenn on
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Sarah,
Maybe I am way off base but...
I do not think you are using any products that are 'results' driven. I would not even know where to begin with the product lines you are currently using. Sorry.
Marty
SkinCareScience.com
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Permalink Reply by coldsalineplexus on
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Hi Sarah! I absolutely LOVE the smell and feel and luxury of Epicuren, and have checked out the line several times, but ultimately have been unable to bring it into my studio because it just doesn't contain the ingredients necessary to get results. That said, the three Epicuren products you need to sell to everyone with the conditions you mentioned are:
10% Glycolic cream or gel depending on their skin
Alpha Lipoic cream
the zinc or the sport sunscreen
Additionally those sun damaged and melasma cases should be using their arbutin lightener, and the milia folks can use the chai soy mud mask to help prevent future milia (although existing milia will have to be removed by lancet extraction, either by you if it's in your scope, or by a dermatologist). Unfortunately you are not going to see improvement with the acne scarring until you have access to effective peels, BUT you can use those glycolic solutions to diminish post-inflammatory hyperpigmentation (pink/brown/purplish spots from RECENT breakouts). But I would avoid promising results for true acne scars, and instead refer them to someone who can do a strong peel (but will still keep them coming to you for their facials).
For all of these clients, in the treatment room, I would try doing a lengthy exfoliation by blending one of the scrubs (I think there is one with aluminum oxide grains) with the strongest AHA that you have, and massaging it for a looong time, followed by applying either the arbutin serum or the alpha lipoic under a basic calming cream mask (perhaps you have one from phytomer? I am not familiar with that line at all, sorry), and reapplying after you remove the mask. When I worked in a spa and was limited to pevonia in the treatment room, I even took the (questionable) tactic of applying the (relatively mild) peels under steam to improve penetration, and was occasionally even able to get a light frost.
I think it would help if you were able to get some outside training on higher-strength peels, so that you can have a better understanding of the acids and how they are used, in order to maximize what you have from the lines you carry.
Good luck!
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Permalink Reply by Sarah Sweeney on
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Christina, wow! Thank you so much. Your words of advice mean a lot!!! I will definately try those tactics. I am completely aware I need to be using more 'result driven' products/peels in my treatment room, but like I said, that is unavailable for me at the moment. Hopefully in the future. Thanks again Christina!
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