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Permalink Reply by Techno Esthetics on September 18, 2014 at 2:45pm

Hello Marissa, we have a case of a 19-years old girl with chronic acne on her face (which is more sensitive than the back), so based on experience, we are more than happy to share with you our case.

The results on her treatment have been amazing! But the most rewarding part has been to increase her self-esteem.

We started by changing her home care cleaning system (Deep Cleanser with glycolic Acid, Moisturizer, SunBlock for oily Skin SPF50+, and medical makeup), and a deep cleaning with steamer and LED.

She went through a basic nutrition every 2-weeks for a whole month (a combination of Vitamin C, Gluthatione, etc. to kill the bacteria and nurture skin) followed by a home-made natural mask which had a mixture of pearl powder, honey, and other organic products. 

The second month, we treated her with a controlled-peeling from INNO Search, specifically INNO PEEL SKIN RECOVERY.  We sent her home with a cream from the same brand called INNO PEEL POST TREATMENT Skin Recovery (which she keeps using every night as part of her routine). Fifteen days later, we applied INNO PEEL Lactobio C to balance skin's ph.

We are currently treating her monthly with basic nutrition and Plasma (PRP). 

The results? In 3 months Breakouts were reduced a 90% and through the Plasma Treatment we've achieved a considerable skin restoration, even acne scars (holes on her face) are fading.

When deciding on a chemical peeling, keep in mind the quality of the product and the type (Superficial, Medium or Deep).  We like and recommend INNO Peel Skin Recovery because they are NOT deep peelings that may cause a complete necrosis of the dermis or epidermis of your patient; they are controlled peelings that are able to treat different skin pathologies safely such as acne vulgar-is, sebum secretion, mild scars, post inflammatory pigmentation, etc.

Hope this information supports your protocol;  good luck and feel free to contact us in case you have additional questions :-)

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Permalink Reply by Marissa Hazelip on September 18, 2014 at 9:40pm

Thank you so much. This information helps a lot!

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Permalink Reply by Techno Esthetics on September 19, 2014 at 8:02am

Any time Marissa, have a blessed day :-)

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Permalink Reply by Marty Glenn on September 20, 2014 at 3:30pm

Marissa

I am going to answer by talking to this post.  Your a newbie of sorts so I thought that might help just to give a different opinion based on a good response and one that is working for another person; a different angle if you will.

Acne is very tough, probably next to melasma the most difficult to treat.

Cleanser:  I would always go with Salicylic Cleanser and then add glycolic acid later in the treatment or add 2- 3x a week but go with Salicylic Acid AM and PM first.  Most are 2% Sal Acid so that is the basic cleanser.

SPF is a known skin irritant so can you get your client to stay AWAY from the sun 100%?  Sorta extreme so that less SPF is needed. At least long enough to see if sun exposure is helping or ?.

Steam:  I would avoid steam and also reduce the shower time and temperature. Steam swells the corneocytes that are down in the hair follicles and although it does seem like a good idea (steam the skin), for me it is not.  It is proven that humidity can cause and or increase acne so with that said it is basically a steam environment.  I know what other esties reading this are thinking and this idea is not the end all be all but just something to think about and research on your own.

I cannot talk to the nutrition but it sounds good.  There has to be huge volumes via google on that subject.

Home made mask, well.. whatever works.  How can you go wrong! ;)  Mom knows best as I always say...

The peel used here: I have no idea about it but maybe you could research it more. I am not sure but for me the go to first is Salicylic Acid or TCA.  I prefer TCA but be careful and look at percentages of 5% - 10% and watch the number of coats. YOU really do need top notch training before you use TCA but when used properly it is the best.

This statement here in the post:

"We like and recommend INNO Peel Skin Recovery because they are NOT deep peelings that may cause a complete necrosis of the dermis or epidermis of your patient; they are controlled peelings that are able to treat different skin pathologies safely such as acne vulgar-is, sebum secretion, mild scars, post inflammatory pigmentation, etc."

See this first: "Necrosis (from the Greek νέκρωσις "death, the stage of dying, the act of killing" from νεκρός "dead") is a form of cell injury that results in the premature death of cells in living tissue by autolysis.^[1]Necrosis is caused by factors external to the cell or tissue, such as infection, toxins, or trauma that result in the unregulated digestion of cell components."

My comments for you:

Take a look at the diagram I attached. See the level of the peels in the upper right hand corner?  Those are straight medical and the theory behind those types o f acids and their depth of penetration has to span at least 15 year years or more.  So its pretty solid advice.  Do I agree with it entirely? No I really don't, but its a good way to look at it before you get the experience and form your own opinion(s).

So what acid is in the INNO peel or any other should be your FIRST question.  Are you dealing with a combination peel or a single acid peel.  How low is the PH?  Is it time dependent or coat dependent.  What is the pre peel requirements and or post peel. Are they working on the inter-cellular space adhesion areas or are they protein coagulators (frosting)? 

There is no one size fits all but if you understand the skin and HOW acne scars, it is a little easier to pick a chemical acid and or treatment. Lots of ideas and answers out there but I always try to pass on a little bit of information with each of my responses on this blog.

I hope these help you more. One more thing...

There is this method of removing facial acne scars with TCA at 80% or more.  Youtube it and you will see some Dr.s who perform it.  I do not have the time now to explain how it works but it does and is very effective before you look at other more invasive surgical treatments or deeper peels or ???

Marty

SkinCareScience.com

Attachments:

• Skin Layers.pdf, 2.2 MB

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Permalink Reply by Marissa Hazelip on September 21, 2014 at 11:46am

Thank you so much Marty for this great information and attached file. Very informative! I'm  new Esthetician and not very familiar using the chemical peeI yet. This is very helpful thanks!!!!!!

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Permalink Reply by Jennifer angelson on October 14, 2014 at 5:49pm

Marty

That is a wealth of info for us new bee's I do not have a scientific mind and really have to study this stuff hard to understand it all. I would love to learn more from you! I have a strong sales backround and have been very comfortable selling high end machines. I am now learning the "hands on" side of the business and find it to be struggle. So much information out there

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