Diamond-tip Dermabrasion

Permalink Reply by Brenda Griffin on March 14, 2011 at 6:05pm

Isabella, I'm not familiar with that particlar machine but I too use Diamond Tip and love it. I have used the cyrstal type machines and they are a mess, the client leaves feeling gritty and the room is filled with a fine film of dust. My machine is DiamondSkin and it has served me and my clients well. I believe it is very effective and I follow each treatment with an oxygen treatment to assist with the recovery process. I too have a home business.

Permalink Reply by Isabella Veneck on March 14, 2011 at 10:06pm

Thank u, Brenda. I've been meaning to look into the ion/oxygen treatments. Where should I begin?

Permalink Reply by Brenda Griffin on March 15, 2011 at 10:05am

Isabella, I use high frequency to provide oxygen. Good 'ol stand-by. Sorry I'm not much more help than that. I have a friend who actually uses ultrasound following her treatments. Please do share your research when you get to it.

Permalink Reply by Vernell Sutherland on March 18, 2011 at 1:06pm

I had a DiamondTome--diamond tip. machine. I liked it much better than crystals but now i don't use microdermabrasion at all. The vast majority of my clients are over 50 and many much older than that. Their skin is just too thin and sensitive as microderm causes capillaries to break and there could be hyperpigmentation issues. Microderm is great on younger, thicker skin though and if that was my market I'd definately be using a diamond tip machine. I've found that for my client peels are a better exfoliation solution becasue i get the exfoliation i want without the skin being "sucked" by the machine which is what causes the broken capillaries. I even had a HydrFacial demo hoping that water instead of crystals or diamonds would work better on my clients. But it still needed the "sucking" function to work so i passed -- plus it was very expensive. I did buy some dermafiles and i like them. they work well after a peel. If you buy them, however, I recommend you buy directly from the owner of the company as you will not only save money but you get the benifit of her help.

Regarding oxygen treatments, i've also done those using an Echo 2 Plus. The treatment was okay but i really don't think the oxygen added much. The research i've done seems to indicate that oxygen can penetrate the skin only if the dermis is exposed which is why is works on burn victims. So i'm not wasting my money on that machine either as it too is very expensive and the products needed to keep doing the treatments also are pricy.

Permalink Reply by Diane Feeney on September 23, 2011 at 5:25am

I came very close to purchasing a Diamond Tome machine, but the truth is, most of my clients are 50 and over as well and have thin skin. It would of taken me forever to pay that machine off. I also use the Dermafiles and have had success with them. Could you share with me some of the txs your providing for your maturer clientele. Thanks!

Permalink Reply by Virginia Mabbun on March 21, 2011 at 2:40pm

Ladies, thank you for sharing your insights and information. I too am looking for a microdermabrasion machine and your information is very valuable. Thank you!

Permalink Reply by Patricia Preuss on March 22, 2011 at 9:48am

Vernell, thank you that was very interesting. I too have a diamond head and sometimes get clients that have "loose" skin but when I turn the pressure way down I do not have much pulling at all. However, I have started to mix my tx with mild micro and mild peel (usually Glycolic 7 or 15%) and am getting really good results. I have found that mixing my treatments and finding my own formulas is effective and fun. Pat

Vernell Sutherland said:

I had a DiamondTome--diamond tip. machine. I liked it much better than crystals but now i don't use microdermabrasion at all. The vast majority of my clients are over 50 and many much older than that. Their skin is just too thin and sensitive as microderm causes capillaries to break and there could be hyperpigmentation issues. Microderm is great on younger, thicker skin though and if that was my market I'd definately be using a diamond tip machine. I've found that for my client peels are a better exfoliation solution becasue i get the exfoliation i want without the skin being "sucked" by the machine which is what causes the broken capillaries. I even had a HydrFacial demo hoping that water instead of crystals or diamonds would work better on my clients. But it still needed the "sucking" function to work so i passed -- plus it was very expensive. I did buy some dermafiles and i like them. they work well after a peel. If you buy them, however, I recommend you buy directly from the owner of the company as you will not only save money but you get the benifit of her help.

Regarding oxygen treatments, i've also done those using an Echo 2 Plus. The treatment was okay but i really don't think the oxygen added much. The research i've done seems to indicate that oxygen can penetrate the skin only if the dermis is exposed which is why is works on burn victims. So i'm not wasting my money on that machine either as it too is very expensive and the products needed to keep doing the treatments also are pricy.

Permalink Reply by Katrina Kulm on March 27, 2011 at 11:56pm

Vernell,

How many treatments were you doing of the diamond tip machine on your 50+ clients before noticing it was making their skin thinner and having broken capillaries showing? When you say the Hydrafacial, is that similar to what just came out from Bio-Therapeutic called Bio-Hydroderm, advanced aqua-fuse/Hydrodermabrasion? It sounded similar as far as putting water into the skin along with using microdermabrasion. I'm a little skeptical when it comes to machines (especially new) so I'd like to know.

Vernell Sutherland said:

I had a DiamondTome--diamond tip. machine. I liked it much better than crystals but now i don't use microdermabrasion at all. The vast majority of my clients are over 50 and many much older than that. Their skin is just too thin and sensitive as microderm causes capillaries to break and there could be hyperpigmentation issues. Microderm is great on younger, thicker skin though and if that was my market I'd definately be using a diamond tip machine. I've found that for my client peels are a better exfoliation solution becasue i get the exfoliation i want without the skin being "sucked" by the machine which is what causes the broken capillaries. I even had a HydrFacial demo hoping that water instead of crystals or diamonds would work better on my clients. But it still needed the "sucking" function to work so i passed -- plus it was very expensive. I did buy some dermafiles and i like them. they work well after a peel. If you buy them, however, I recommend you buy directly from the owner of the company as you will not only save money but you get the benifit of her help.

Regarding oxygen treatments, i've also done those using an Echo 2 Plus. The treatment was okay but i really don't think the oxygen added much. The research i've done seems to indicate that oxygen can penetrate the skin only if the dermis is exposed which is why is works on burn victims. So i'm not wasting my money on that machine either as it too is very expensive and the products needed to keep doing the treatments also are pricy.

Permalink Reply by Virginia Mabbun on April 1, 2011 at 8:15pm

Hi Isabella, I wanted to ask you about that Nova 500B. I purchased one and tried it out today on my hands. Can you tell me what setting and which tips you like to use? I seem to favor the 200 tip with a suction at 7. This is my first diamond microderm unit. I'm excited to use the device but I want to be sure I know how its going to behave before I use it on clients. Thanks!

Permalink Reply by Tasha Baughman on April 7, 2011 at 2:49pm

Hello everyone, I use the Nova NV-500b dimond machine and love it as well (Love dimond way better than crystal)....my only problem I can not seem to figure out on the thing is how to change the filter of the machine itself??? Can anyone help?? Do you actually have to unscrew that little glass part on the side after so many treatments, or just once it is all the way full???

Permalink Reply by Cindy Greenwood on April 13, 2011 at 6:10am

Actually - this is why I returned the machine. The seller not only did not have the replacement filter, but could not tell me how to obtain one(actually I could not even get the casing OFF). The Nova 900 does take filters - both on the tip and at the vacuum tube - this unit has way better suction than your unit - and I even increased the suction by replacing the vacuum tubing with something better...anyway - I ended up purchasing a nice unit from 5-Star Formulators. This unit has MUCH better suction than either of the Novas and it does takes disposable filters on the vacuum tube. It also looks more professional and I know that if anything happens I can get replacement parts and repairs from a reputable vendor. This unit has a similar filtration unit on the back as the Nova 500 and I was informed that I could remove the plastic casing and wash/scrub the filter if needed...you might want to see if you can do this Anyway - you get what you pay for - I would have preferred the DiamondTome but did the best I could with the money I could invest.

Tasha Baughman said:

Hello everyone, I use the Nova NV-500b dimond machine and love it as well (Love dimond way better than crystal)....my only problem I can not seem to figure out on the thing is how to change the filter of the machine itself??? Can anyone help?? Do you actually have to unscrew that little glass part on the side after so many treatments, or just once it is all the way full???

Permalink Reply by Kimberly Lovato on September 26, 2012 at 8:04pm

Hi Cindy,

Which microdermabrasion machine do you use currently? Are you happy with it? Do you have any suggestions for anything new on the market that you would prefer more? I am also in the market for one. Also, do you use an oxygen machine at all?

Thank you!

Kimberly Lovato

Actually - this is why I returned the machine. The seller not only did not have the replacement filter, but could not tell me how to obtain one(actually I could not even get the casing OFF). The Nova 900 does take filters - both on the tip and at the vacuum tube - this unit has way better suction than your unit - and I even increased the suction by replacing the vacuum tubing with something better...anyway - I ended up purchasing a nice unit from 5-Star Formulators. This unit has MUCH better suction than either of the Novas and it does takes disposable filters on the vacuum tube. It also looks more professional and I know that if anything happens I can get replacement parts and repairs from a reputable vendor. This unit has a similar filtration unit on the back as the Nova 500 and I was informed that I could remove the plastic casing and wash/scrub the filter if needed...you might want to see if you can do this Anyway - you get what you pay for - I would have preferred the DiamondTome but did the best I could with the money I could invest.

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