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Permalink Reply by Lisa VanBockern on February 22, 2013 at 3:11pm

Hi Sandra:

I don't claim to be a skin specialist in this eye area, but after a conversation between Dave and myself, here's our thoughts.  I understand your thought that they aren't milia, but something else.

First, if we are seeing dark circles, that can mean we are seeing a bed of rich blood/vessels; our first thought is the papillary layer in this area is beginning to collapse (hence the darker circles) as that's where our capillary layer resides.  Second, after research on the internet, another theory is the chicken skin is the sebaceous and sweat glands appearing because of stretched thin skin in this area.  The theory of thinning collagen in this area could create both the dark circles and the enhancement of the oil/sweat glands at the surface.

Then, we turn to stimulating collagen in that area without irritation.   Glycolics or retinols along the eye area could create irritation.  Our Peptide Eye Serum has lighteners for the dark circles, but it also has phytic and tartaric acid to gently exfoliate to help stimulate collagen.  I would also suggest the Ageless Skin Hydrating Serum to add water to this area to plump the skin (in effect we are attempting to add layers between the papillary dermis and the surface to minimize the bumps and the dark pigment).  Are you following us here?

Now, we can hear the next question - if we add water to this eye area to plump, aren't we creating puffy eyes?  The key is you would use this combination on thinning skin that needs plumping (you wouldn't use this protocol on someone who already had puffy eyes).

The bottom line:  its a collagen issue; hydrate and plump and nourish.

Permalink Reply by Sheila Gordon on February 23, 2013 at 6:40am

and this is why we love Skin Scripts and you Lisa!  WOW!  Awesome explanation.  I too have a little chicken skin under there myself although noone can see it.  I like doing the serum and the cream and have been doing that combo for a week or so.  Now, I have done on myself only (bc I like to experiment) enzyme treatments under the eye area and I have also done lactic close to the eye area with no irritation (but again that is just me). 

Thanks Lisa!! 

Permalink Reply by Abigail Ruelas on February 28, 2013 at 9:03pm

Thanks for the thorough explanation Lisa!  

Permalink Reply by Brianna G on February 23, 2013 at 11:14pm

First of all, Thank you, thank you, thank you!!! First to Sandra for asking this question and Lisa...you are AWESOME! I have a client with the same issue. Sandra, I'm assuming your client may be from Hawai'i. I was born and raised there. " Chicken skin" is a term used to describe "goose bumps". I've seen men and women with this "condition" and it seems more common with certain ethnicities ( Filipino, Asian)? Or could it be hereditary?

My question is, how well could we expect these products to work on their own? Meaning, if clients do not have access to professional Skin Script enzyme treatments or facials? I know everyone is different so results will vary, I would just like to give them an idea of what they could expect by using Skin Script home care to treat this issue.

Thank you :))

Permalink Reply by Lisa VanBockern on February 24, 2013 at 9:31am

Brianna:

Everyone reacts differently to products, so its hard to put an exact percentage of improvement based on the recommendation above.  For example, some of my customers will report a 90% improvement in their dark circles after using the Peptide Eye Serum; some report 30% improvement.  Honestly, I do notice that the younger customers respond faster.  I also notice that dark circles due to hereditary issues are harder to lift pigment.  Take into consideration age and lifestyle and try to gauge from there.  The bottom line is that if a customer is going to try a product to correct something like the above issue, they need to be consistent in using it twice a day, every day for at least 4 weeks.  I honestly think you will get some nice results if you use the Peptide Eye Serum followed by the Ageless Skin Hydrating Serum for homecare.

Permalink Reply by Sandra Kazenko on February 26, 2013 at 12:49pm

Lisa, I haven't had a chance to comment until now. I just wanted to THANK YOU for your response. This is why I am a Skin Script Rx fan!