Skin Script Skin Care

Dorothy:  Yes, you can use exfoliants before/after enzymes but remember each time you perform a layer of something (chemical peel, enzyme, mechanical exfoliation) you are going to accelerate/supercharge the treatment.  Only layer exfoliants when you want the extra boost to the facial.  Yes, the serums can be used as a massage medium.  I massage the serums into the skin and then put the Seaweed mask on top and massage with the Seaweed (I feel that I am driving the serums in further).

Lizabeth:  Good question on ph values for the WI law and the difference between chemical peels and enzymes.  Ideally, you are going to call the Board of Cosmetology and ask, but technically you could use the Coconut (4.38) and the Raspberry (2.05) as they are not alpha hydroxy or beta acids.  The cranberry turnover should be okay with a 20% salicylic and a ph of 3.73.  They aren't called peels, but then again, it all comes down to terminology.

I will put the sunblock pump request on the wish list.

I am getting ready to order the samples of the retail/backbar items.  How do these come packaged?  Are they just for one time use?  I am currently using gloTherapeutics and I am thinking about slowly transitioning to another line. Thank you!!

Hi Sheila - The samples of retail products range from .25 oz to .5 oz and they are designed to last 3-7 days.  The professional sample pack contains .25 oz and you can expect one treatment application from each sample.  We would love to have you try our products!

Great thank you!  Placing the order today!  I just love how active you are on here and all of the suggestions for protocols and the education.  I am definitely not getting that from my current line and I feel that it's important!  Looking forward to receiving them!

what is the best products to use to help with sundamage and hyper-pigmentation?  I love all the advice and love these products!!

Hi Angela:  We have a great 8-week TCA protocol for pigmentation and sun damage.

Week 1 - Consultation and client starts homecare to prep for peels.  Specifically, the glycolic cleanser, glycolic/retinol pads (these pads are our number 1 skin lightening product), and ageless hydrating serum (among other products).

Week 2 - Glycolic Peel

Week 3 - Lactic Peel

Week 4 - 2 layers of our gentle TCA (mild flaking for 4-6 days)

Let the skin rest.

Week 8 - 4-6 layers of TCA.

This is an amazing protocol without a lot of down time.  If your client will have sun exposure this summer, then you might try the Lemon Zest Enzyme through the summer until you can start the peel series.  The Lemon Zest was made for normal to dry skin with pigmentation.

What are good summer protocols for facials?  I am in Florida so I know that people will be in the sun but would love to offer some sort of upgrade to a regular treatment facial.  I just ordered both sample retail and sample backbar products plus the eye peptide and the blemish spot tx.  I am already extremely impressed with how quickly my order was placed and shipped the same day!!  I can't wait to get my package :). 

Hi Sheila.  For summer, I love the "Beach Facial".  It's the Coconut/Papaya facial protocol.  It involves the Coconut enzyme (for all skin types as it's most gentle) and the Seaweed Mask would be a cool dip in the ocean.  You could even incorporate brown sugar as a scrub with the coconut enzyme to replicate sand exfoliation.  I also just send an e-mail newsletter about the Passionfruit enzyme we just received back in stock yesterday.  This one is gentle for exfoliation, but it is an amazing firming facial as it contains a peptide named Kollaren.  This passionfruit enzyme would not have been in your sample pack as we just received it yesterday.  Let me know if you're interested and I'll send a sample to you.

I was talking to another esti about WI chemical peel laws and she told me that an enzyme doesn't fall under AHA? I am confused because I just read an article that put enzymes under a sub-category of AHA... Help

I would love a sample, thank you so much!!  I love this idea for a facial too.  I meant to order the product manual too but I will get that as I am sure I will be placing another order.  I can't imagine not liking the products after seeing all of this feedback!!

Hi Lizabeth:  I'm interested in hearing other's feedback on this.  I would agree that an enzyme is NOT an alpha hydroxy acid (AHA); however, we do have certain enzymes (such as our Lemon Zest, Pomegranate, Blueberry) where we HAVE added AHAs and betas to the enzymes to make them more potent.  I would say you are safe with our Raspberry, Coconut, and Passionfruit enzymes.

I started using SS about three months ago. I have been boosting the Raspberry with Glycolic as an upgrade and my clients have been loving it. The Glycolic pads are an easy sell I have sold over 6 in the past month. The Peptide cream is amazing. Continuing to add more to my backbar and retail.  

Yvonne:  I love that you are blending!  For everyone else reading, always remember to understand each enzyme by itself with no boost so you don't get too aggressive too soon for your clients.  By the way, I have a secret ... I have been boosting my Passionfruit enzyme with glycolic and I do put it under steam (even though the protocol says no boosting and no steam).  It's amazing.

Do many states have specific laws about chemical peels like WI?  I have went looked at the state of Michigan Cosmetology Law guide and there isn't much prohibited, but I am not sure if I need to  be looking elsewhere for the specifics.  I was told in school that Michigan does not allow the use of lancets but I can't find that info in this guide.  I do see a separate link for microdermabrasion that says we are not allowed to perform unless we are working under a Dr.  Is this where all the info should be listed?

Hi Kim:  I don't see any reason why you couldn't use the Passionfruit on pregnant women; it contains no acids.  Yes, the Coconut and the Raspberry are the only others safe for pregnant or lactating women.

I can not find a write up about passion fruit in my product guide, where can I get one?

Hi Lizabeth - I don't have the ability to upload it here, but I will e-mail it to you separately.  If anyone else wants the literature for the Passionfruit, please feel free to e-mail me at lisa@skinscriptrx.com.  Thanks!

I just wanted to say that my clients love the price point of your products!!! They say its actually affordable and comparable to department stores & catalog/home party lines. Thanks, Lisa

Plus they are just awesome products, love my home care products!!!

First I have to say THANK YOU for having a company with such great customer service.  I ordered Wed, product shipped Wed and I received it Friday and I am in Florida!  Last night I decided to give myself the pomegranate facial because I was having a little bit of a breakout all over so this one seemed the best.  I followed all of the steps but I also added a little blemish treatment at the end and I am being honest when I say that most of the blemishes are GONE.  It was the first thing I felt this morning when I woke up and was simply amazed!  Also after using the green tea cleanser then the glycolic, when I got out of the shower, my face was literally tightening up (It was crazy!!).  I really do love the products to far!  I have one question, with the blemish treatment and the eye peptide, how many uses do would you say you get on average out of them?  Just curious.  Thanks!  Have a great weekend

Sheila:  Nice!!!  This is exactly what I want to hear.  I do realize there are great skin care lines out there, but if we can have (1) great product that does what its supposed to, and (2) great customer service, then I feel we are  on the right track.  Regarding your comment about the Peptide Eye product and Blemish Spot Treatment, I think those would last 2-3 months.  I use the Peptide Eye cream everyday and it lasts at least 2 months.

Barbara - thank you for your business and for loving the product!  We put a lot of thought into these when we made them.  For pigmentation and acne, we have an 8-week TCA protocol that gets raving reviews.  You can also use this 8-week TCA protocol on all fitzpatricks.  We have a  discussion thread on the TCA protocol.  If you'd like, please e-mail at me at lisa@skinscriptrx.com and I will e-mail you the exact protocol.  Thanks all!

Hi Barbara - For homecare, I would start her with Green Tea Cleanser, Retinol Scrub, Cucumber Toner, Ageless Hydrating Serum/Vitamin C Serum, appropriate moisturizer and spf.  For professional treatments, I would start with the Coconut Papaya enzyme and see how she responds.  After that I would move her into a Lactic Peel and eventually work into 1 layer of the TCA (remember this is a VERY gentle TCA).

I am going to start introducing your enzymes into my backbar with my Glo products.  I have so much backbar so I am not in a position to totally make the switch but would like to slowly start.  I thought the enzymes were a great starting point.  I am going to offer these with my summer facial so I was thinking of definitely having the coconut/papaya but also the pomegranate for the acne.  Technically the coconut can be used on most skin types right?  Also, I know that using all of the products together help with the effectiveness but in your opinion, are the enzymes pretty successful on their own as far as helping with acne?  I had purchased the samples so Friday I am going to try the cranberry turn over possibly with glycolic on a client.  She has been suffering from severe breakouts so I thought this would be good and I am out of the pomegranate.  

Just starting out with the line, what is everyone's opinion on must have products to start or what are everyone's favorite products?

Thanks for your help.

Hi Sheila.  I'm excited to have you try our enzymes!  I, personally, like your idea of the Coconut and the Pomegranate.  Yes, I do think you will see/feel results from the enzymes alone.  You might consider adding the Goji Berry Yogurt Mask.

I look forward to everyone else's response.

Great!  Thanks Lisa!! 

I do have another question for you.  When you say in the protocols to add glycolic peel to an enzyme or the Lemon Zest to the Lactic, about how much should be added?  At what point in your facial protocols would you recommend doing the facial massage and can you do that after a peel or would you recommend not to?  I have heard different opinions on whether or not it's ok.  Do you have anything particular you like to use for the massage portion of a facial?  Ok, that was more than just one more question :).  Thanks!

Hi Sheila - I add about 1/2 tsp (1/2 pump) of glycolic or lactic to the enzymes.  I ONLY do this when I want the enzymes stronger.  I don't suggest boosting an enzyme with a peel until you are comfortable with the enzyme alone and it's a client who is a regular.  Adding acids is an option when you want a stronger facial, but definitely not required.

As far as a facial protocol, I (1) cleanse, (2) enzyme, (3) mechanical exfoliation if desired), (4) extractions, (5) treatment serums, (6) massage with the Seaweed Mask, (7) add Goji Berry Mask if needed, (8) tone, (9) moisturize, and (10) spf.  That's a 60 minute facial for me.

I do not massage after a peel; my feeling would be that it might drive it in a lot deeper than I want.  Honestly, I have never massaged after a peel, so I couldn't answer that truthfully.

I use my Seaweed mask for massage - it has a great slip to it.  It's also a little tingly (as you might have read on other posts here).  Tingly is okay for me.

Great info!  I just received my sample enzyme kit and will be trying them soon.  I also need to know one or two summer time treatments that I can offer to most because I'm a start up business and can only introduce a couple of enzymes and mask at this time.  My entire client list is in the sun all summer so I lose most of my peel patients during the summer.  I think Skin Scripts has great treatments to offer as an alternative to peels.  Lisa, thanks for all the hands on information you provide to this forum!

hmm  about the massaging after the peel...Lisa and Sheila I am new at the enzymes and I didn't know I wasn't supposed to.  I have always massaged right after I remove.  I don't have a steamer yet so it's probably not as intense as it could be.  It's awesome when I can feel their dead skin rolling off!  lol  That happened a couple of times, probably on clients with more build up. huh?

Sheila, I am somewhat new to Skinscript products also, but I will tell you that everything I have ordered, I have been happy with.  I also have another product line, but I have always been a fan of enzyme txs and these enzyme products give you results.  Bottom line is, they work.  My clientele is older so on rare occasions I'll have an acne client.  Therefore, I haven't tried the pomegrante or cranberry.  The Lemon Zest is wonderful and I mix that with lactic acid (1/2 tsp) and steam.  On some people, they can get a little flushed or even red, so you need to watch out for that.  The raspberry peach is wonderful and I love the one you purchased, coconut papaya.  I just bought the blueberry, but haven't used it yet and the pumpkin orange is nice also, but quite strong.  I'm slowly trying their retail line and one product I will say that I like already is the tri-peptide eye cream.   

I saw your question regarding facial massage.  I think everyone does it at different stages of the facial.  I do mine after extractions, except for an acne or extremely sensitive pt.  I apply the hydrating serum and green tea/vit c serum first and then use the seaweed mask over top to massage.  If you haven't tried the goji berry mask, that is wonderful.  Between both my skincare lines, that is my favorite mask.  One of the things I like about this line is that they don't have a zillion products and you can get creative in coming up with a seasonal, holiday or any promotion for the month facial. 

Hi Toni:  I hope you love the samples and find results with them.  For summertime facials, I recommend the (1) Beach facial, or (2) Sweet Tea facial.  Those are my nicknames for the Coconut Papaya facial and the Raspberry Peach facial which can be used on all skin types and are most gentle.  Take a look at the protocols for Coconut and Raspberry that were included with your sample kit and see if those will work for you.  They smell wonderful!

I never received any enzyme protocols?  I didn't know there was any..

Hi Robin - I'll send those right now via e-mail and also via US Mail.  Sorry you didn't receive them!!!

Thanks Lisa - great ideas!!! 

All great info!!  Thank you so much!  I am new to skin care also and had opened up my own little room right away so it can be very overwhelming but I am impressed with the communication that Skin Scripts has and customer service! 

Diane, I ordered the peptide eye cream for myself and really do like it as well as the blemish spot treatment. 

Keep the suggestions coming, I love the feedback!! 

After extractions, do you recommend using a little blemish control toner or blemish spot tx to get in there and kill some bacteria before serums and mask?  Would either be too strong after an enzyme tx?

Madeleine:  Absolutely you can use the blemish control pads after extractions; just tell the client it might sting a little.  Great question!

Is the product/training manual different than the facial protocols that were sent with the enzymes? 

Sheila:  Yes, the product/training manual is the most comprehensive.  It has all the protocols, but it has all the technical information such as full formula composition, active ingredients, etc.  on every product. We charge $10 for it, or if you purchase $100 or more, you can request this manual for free.

I love your enzyme peels! I had purchased the professional samples.  I loved them all!

Lisa, do you have a logo pic that I can proudly display on my website, so people know I use & retail your great products?

Hi Lizabeth - I will send the logo directly to you for your use!

Hi Barbara - I will e-mail the protocols for the eye and lip treatment directly to you since I cannot attached it here.

If anyone else would like this information e-mailed to them, please e-mail me directly at lisa@skinscriptrx.com.  Thanks!

Hi Tamara:  Thanks for your nice comment below!  I’m glad you like your samples.  Which one is the favorite?  Right now the Passionfruit is my mine.  Let me know if you have any questions on how to use them.  I can always be contacted directly at 480-543-1121 or lisa@skinscriptrx.com.  Other estheticians here might also provide some great feedback here on their favorites and how they use them.

Hi Lisa, I am just curious, where/when would you incorporate a Clarisonic with your skin care line?  Can you use it with any of your cleansers?  I typically use mine at night time but then I have the retinol scrub as well, would that be too much exfoliation to do clarisonic at night, retinol in the morning or even few times a week?  Plus I know some of the cleansers are exfoliating as well.  Just curious.  Thanks!!

Hi Sheila - I would incorporate it with your cleansers.  I don't have a clarisonic so maybe others have comments on it here.  I'm not sure if you would overexfoliate the skin with both the clarisonic and the retinol scrub.  I think it would be a "try it and feel it out" type of thing.

Lisa, I just went to your training on July 10h in South Portland, Maine. I really enjoyed it, I learned a lot of info about skin care in general and about your products. I have been using your products for months and love them but I didn't realize how much you can do with them... like the layering treatments. I look forward to learning more about your skin care line and buy more products to try in the future. Thank you for sharng your time and wisdom with me.      Kim Dunnells

Hi Kimberly - we are having such a nice time on the East Coast meeting such nice, passionate estheticians.  I'm glad we had the opportunity to work hands-on with the product so you can see how fun and flexible the line is (without have too many products).  It was a pleasure to meet you and thanks for inviting us out!